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Old 05-12-06, 12:12 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by WilliamG
Thanks for the responses. I'm having trouble locating this subtitle viewer. Can someone link me please?

Thanks in advance.

I may try reverting back to 0.71 (running 0.72) to see if it fixes my video freezing issues.

Also, what are the best settings for converting the average .avi file, using PocketDivxEncoder?

Thanks again!

Are you trying to play .avi (motion JPEG) files on your pda with tcpmp?

I posted a question on the corecodec forums about this while I was trying to play .avi files from my canon s2is digital camera.

Oh, may I diplomatically suggest that you started this thread coming across a bit like an ingrate? You know, tcpmp is a free program. You can't expect the world and get it for free. People like Picard spent a ton of time to give you a free player that's pretty much the best out there right now ... you could at least explore the corecodec forums and get in touch with Picard to see what's up.

The video stutters despite my best efforts to smooth it out. I think the main problem is that the motion JPEG codec that Canon uses is such a resource hog. I'm still pissed that they haven't changed it for whatever reason with the s3is unlike other manufacturers like Sony who use mpeg4 which is much, much, lighter resource-wise and which takes up just a fraction of the space.

Picard at corecodec was gracious with his time and replies but unfortunately there was no solution to the problem at hand. Can't remember exactly what the limitation was or where the problem lay.

This thread reminds me to shoot Picard a message in the hopes that he'll find the time to potentially solve that issue. I would love to natively play these files on my axim x51v without having to reprocess them with another program to "lessen" the strain on tcpmp/axim x51v.

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Resorting to ad hominem by calling me an ingrate doesn't help anyone, and certainly isn't "diplomatic." I've realized in this world of the "Internet," if you don't make waves, people ignore you. After all, how many of you would care if I made a thread called "Having a problem with TCMP" and was utterly boring about it?

Clearly I like the program very much. I use it pretty much every day. I thought that would be obvious from my post.

Anyway, I don't "think" I'm using a motion avi, but then again I don't know what that is. There's certainly motion in my avi file thoughs!
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Old 05-12-06, 06:32 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Which DVD Decoder are you using?
Which Decoders do produce .smi or .srt files?

I use PocketDivxEncoder or Lathe. Neither seem to produce subtitle files
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I have no idea what decoder I'm using, or what you even mean.
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then you need to find out, or else your problem may never be solved...
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Old 05-12-06, 07:36 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Which Decoders do produce .smi or .srt files?
I use PocketDivxEncoder or Lathe. Neither seem to produce subtitle files
Hi there,

I use SubRip - can get at http://www.doom9.org goto download - subtitles and http://www.divx-digest.com/software/subtitle_tool.html for converting to SAMI (SMI) format.
About the PocketDivxEncoder - normally I use Gordian Knot or similar - and as I see you have a X50v sporting 640X480 and the Intel 2700 GPU, you are able to use most avi files for the desktop straight for your Axim.
This way you only need one set of each movie no matter where you are going to use it.

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Old 05-12-06, 11:32 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Many thanks Will.

I use Smart Ripper which has an option to rip subtitles (which I do). I then use PocketDivxEncoder (or Lathe which is virtually the same program) to encode the .vob file to an 640x480 VGA .avi file.

But using TCPMP v 0.72RC1 Beta with the subtitle plug-in installed (which gives me TCPMP Subtitle Edition with a green background to its Icon instead of the blue for the original TCPMP), if I go to Options\Subtitle all the options are greyed out and Stream: None is ticked, also greyed out so I cannot select a subtitle stream.

The video plays perfectly but I get no subtitles.

I have tried selecting both Options\Video\Intel 2700G Decoder and Video\Intel 2700G video drivers but it makes no difference. What am I doing wrong? I would be most grateful for your help.

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Old 05-12-06, 11:52 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Many thanks Will.

I use Smart Ripper which has an option to rip subtitles (which I do). I then use PocketDivxEncoder (or Lathe which is virtually the same program) to encode the .vob file to an 640x480 VGA .avi file.

But using TCPMP v 0.72RC1 Beta with the subtitle plug-in installed (which gives me TCPMP Subtitle Edition with a green background to its Icon instead of the blue for the original TCPMP), if I go to Options\Subtitle all the options are greyed out and Stream: None is ticked, also greyed out so I cannot select a subtitle stream.

The video plays perfectly but I get no subtitles.

I have tried selecting both Options\Video\Intel 2700G Decoder and Video\Intel 2700G video drivers but it makes no difference. What am I doing wrong? I would be most grateful for your help.
And you have converted the subtitle to SMI format instead of SRT - right?
And the subtitle file has the same name otherwise like the movie - right?

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Old 05-12-06, 12:22 PM   #38 (permalink)
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And you have converted the subtitle to SMI format instead of SRT - right?
And the subtitle file has the same name otherwise like the movie - right?

:) Will
No. I don't GET a subtitle file - either SMI or SRT. That is my problem
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Originally Posted by WilliamG
Resorting to ad hominem by calling me an ingrate doesn't help anyone, and certainly isn't "diplomatic." I've realized in this world of the "Internet," if you don't make waves, people ignore you. After all, how many of you would care if I made a thread called "Having a problem with TCMP" and was utterly boring about it?

Clearly I like the program very much. I use it pretty much every day. I thought that would be obvious from my post.

Anyway, I don't "think" I'm using a motion avi, but then again I don't know what that is. There's certainly motion in my avi file thoughs!
Well, the "ingrate" part may have been a bit harsh. "Demanding" may have been more accurate.

People are trying to help you and you come back with comments like "... don't live at Aximsite ..." and "... where am I supposed to find!? ..." type-stuff.

If you are asking for help being perceptively more gracious would be a good starting point. You said you were getting desperate and it certainly showed through the flavor of your words.

Also, making a comment about "making waves otherwise people ignore you" doesn't excuse you at all. This forum and the people here at Aximsite are pretty mature. You don't have to rely on such tactics .. because it causes people to doubt your sincerity and they may respond parallel to your initial tone.

So, I would kindly suggest that you ask your question in a mature way and people will respond in kind.

I don't think you considered the angles of your post that:

- people consider TCPMP to be THE player out there and that it's free(?!)

- mentioning that it needs "SERIOUS" updates implying that the programmers of TCPMP failed to provide you with functionality that should have been there in the first place - but which you were unaware that other issues played a serious role in it's absence (see the answers for Realplayer support)

- and that there's a lack of subtitle support - which there is but you didn't know it.

How come you didn't just ask nicely "How do I get subtitle support with TCPMP?" or "Is it possible to support Real media files?" or "Where can I contact the wonderful guys who wrote and distributed this free player to ingr ... er, inquisitive people like me?"

That's all i'm saying. I'm sorry if I offended you with that comment. I take it back now, a little late of course. I sincerely hope you figure out what you were looking for.
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Fair enough. Point taken. I'll try to be a little less stand-offish in future.

That said, the subtitle feature is frustrating, since there doesn't appear to be "instant" support for files with subtitles "embedded" within the wrapper (OGM).

If there was support for this, life would be much simpler :)
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No. I don't GET a subtitle file - either SMI or SRT. That is my problem
Maybe the problem is somewhere else. You know that when ripping a movie you usually use one program to do the sound/picture part and another to do the subtitle part.

I suggest you get a hold of SubRip 1.3 from doom9 like suggested and run the program up against your DVD's IFO file. It takes learning for the program to get it done - and then it takes some time to correct the resulting SRT file.

Hereafter you should get a hold of Subtitle Tool - also like suggested - and convert the SRT format to SMI format.

Then you should be in bussiness.

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Originally Posted by bill_n_opus
Are you trying to play .avi (motion JPEG) files on your pda with tcpmp?

I posted a question on the corecodec forums about this while I was trying to play .avi files from my canon s2is digital camera.

Oh, may I diplomatically suggest that you started this thread coming across a bit like an ingrate? You know, tcpmp is a free program. You can't expect the world and get it for free. People like Picard spent a ton of time to give you a free player that's pretty much the best out there right now ... you could at least explore the corecodec forums and get in touch with Picard to see what's up.

The video stutters despite my best efforts to smooth it out. I think the main problem is that the motion JPEG codec that Canon uses is such a resource hog. I'm still pissed that they haven't changed it for whatever reason with the s3is unlike other manufacturers like Sony who use mpeg4 which is much, much, lighter resource-wise and which takes up just a fraction of the space.
Sorry to revive a thread long ago but I think it would be better to start here if it has been discussed previously.

I just got a new Canon Ixus 800 IS and tried to play the avi captured by it using TCPMP (v0.71) in my x51v and have a similar problem.

If I use the 640x480 and 30 fps format, I have problem playing the video smoothly. If I display video with 320x240 and 30fps format, it goes smoothly.

May I ask if this is the problem of the video source? Anything I can do to make it run better (say changing settings in TCPMP, which is easier, or converting the video into other format, which is not very desirable)?
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Sorry to revive a thread long ago but I think it would be better to start here if it has been discussed previously.

I just got a new Canon Ixus 800 IS and tried to play the avi captured by it using TCPMP (v0.71) in my x51v and have a similar problem.

If I use the 640x480 and 30 fps format, I have problem playing the video smoothly. If I display video with 320x240 and 30fps format, it goes smoothly.

May I ask if this is the problem of the video source? Anything I can do to make it run better (say changing settings in TCPMP, which is easier, or converting the video into other format, which is not very desirable)?
I conversed with Picard over at corecodec about this and he was very sympathetic to our cause (about 10 months ago or so). I sent him a 640x480 30FPS motion jpeg (.avi) to him to check out and basically he said that we're screwed.

It has something to do with the demands of the 30FPS and the 640x480 on the Axim's ability to process that much information in that native motion jpeg state.

You may get "less choppiness" by fiddling around with the buffers and all that with the player ... but nothing really good enough.

Since this was 10 months ago or so I understand that Picard and the corecodec crew have been working on a new version although I haven't been keeping up with it. Hopefully they have taken into account the motion jpeg resource/power requirements on the Ax and have done something about it ... but you'd have to ask them. So maybe the new player is worth checking out ... we'll see.

The only other option that I can offer is to re-encode the motion jpeg into mpeg4 files or something like that. You maybe able to get good quality by doing this and at the same time reducing the file sizes to manageable amounts. I've heard people doing this with the built in Microsoft software but i've never tried it myself.
I looked into this option before but never got into it enough to figure it out and find what worked and what didnt work.

Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by bill_n_opus
I conversed with Picard over at corecodec about this and he was very sympathetic to our cause (about 10 months ago or so). I sent him a 640x480 30FPS motion jpeg (.avi) to him to check out and basically he said that we're screwed.

It has something to do with the demands of the 30FPS and the 640x480 on the Axim's ability to process that much information in that native motion jpeg state.

You may get "less choppiness" by fiddling around with the buffers and all that with the player ... but nothing really good enough.

Since this was 10 months ago or so I understand that Picard and the corecodec crew have been working on a new version although I haven't been keeping up with it. Hopefully they have taken into account the motion jpeg resource/power requirements on the Ax and have done something about it ... but you'd have to ask them. So maybe the new player is worth checking out ... we'll see.

The only other option that I can offer is to re-encode the motion jpeg into mpeg4 files or something like that. You maybe able to get good quality by doing this and at the same time reducing the file sizes to manageable amounts. I've heard people doing this with the built in Microsoft software but i've never tried it myself.
I looked into this option before but never got into it enough to figure it out and find what worked and what didnt work.

Hope this helps.
Though not a perfect solution, I'll try converting the video.
Many thanks for your help.
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