cjw

I’m using an Axim X51v with ROM version A12, with RealOne player for Pocket PC version 2.0.0.28. So the same as you

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jmjstandin

Thanks for the information, complicated though it is.
I may try to cook up a way to automate this (on my PC perhaps, I haven't a clue how to do it on the Pocket PC itself ...).

Box

Originally Posted by jmjstandin;

Thanks for the information, complicated though it is. I may try to cook up a way to automate this (on my PC perhaps, I haven't a clue how to do it on the Pocket PC itself ...).

I think you missed kronalias' post about the Beebotron.
He has already automated it and it works perfectly, much much better than the direct BBC links. (on ppc)

You can find it hereand click beebotron lite for your ppc.

One of the best PDA friendly pages ever made in my humble opinion.

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Kronalias

Hi jmj! I strongly recommend you don't try that unless you want a severe headache! If you look at the first post in this thread you'll see that I changed it radically. My first post, yonks ago, was a sort of intellectual exercise in what could be done just using a PDA. Trust me, it works but it's not the way to go unless you fancy trying things out just for the fun of it.

I've simplified and automated everything in my current website (I think it's the third reincarnation) here:
Beebotron
This is (or should be) a no popup, no ad site. I've also posted info about it on this board in this thread:
New Beebotron Site

Just click 'n' listen!

Cheers, Kronalias

Kronalias

Hi Box!

Long time no type! How are you?

You posted as I was composing a reply! Thank you for the nice words, all the best, Kronalias

Box

No Problem.

I'm good and there are many people around the world using your Beebotron.


Even my old mum loves it. And she is 80 and makes it work.

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Hi Box!

Give your Mum my regards, and look after her (you only have one Mum).

I know that people worldwide use the site - I've had some really nice emails - and I'm pretty sure that the Beeb know about me (the site is coming up to six months old) and are turning a blind eye.

You've picked up the current website - I was using free hosts initially, but they were starting to clamp down on what you could do (not me specifically) so I put a request out for some help from anyone who had a bit of free space on a server and, bless him, Rick (timeforabrew) helped out, which has made it easier for everybody.

Cheers Kronalias

5318doug

Thank you so much for the beebotron website - this was exactly what I wanted but didn't have sufficient knowledge of the workings of javascriot etc to work out how to do.

I wonder if you have discovered or invented an eqaully perfect solution to the problem of how to efficiently download a whole "listen again" programme and store it as an mp3 or similar file? I now can listen to my favourite programmes around the house, but mainly when I have time is in the car, and can't afford high speed internet there yet! There seem to be various programmes which can record the sound output but then you have to manually set them up to the correct time, and start the stream. If you accidentally generate other sounds because you are using the PC for something else they end up in the recording! What I want is to be able to set somethin up which would overnight record a whole list of specified listen again programmes.

Finally (for now anyway), I wanted to try your "first principles" method of getting the rtsp://... URL, in preparation for any possible sad day where beebotron disappeares. When I paste the .rpm string into my browser on the PC (because cutting and pasting is too much hassle on the portable), I can't work out how to stop my browser starting up the real player plug in rather than downloading the file. Any ideas?

Kronalias

Hi Doug, and thanks for the kind words!

You've obviously done a bit of digging to get to the .ram files. There's a good explanation of them here:
Chapter 3: The Ram File

The .ram file could contain any number of clips, but the Beeb choose only to include one, and that's the file which gives you the url of their streaming media - it'll either be a .ra or .rm file.

Let's take an example - on a PC click Beebotron and go to the Listen Again page for Radio 2 and right click and then click Properties on Chris Evans' Wednesday show.

The link should be rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio2/r2_evans_wed.ra If you right click and save as then you don't save the file - you just kick off the file in Real. If it was http://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio2/r2_evans_wed.ra then it would be easy, but the rtsp prefix flummoxes everything.

In order to get the file you'll need an rtsp downloader. I use Offline Explorer, but a quick google for 'rtsp downloader' will get you loads of results. Make sure you use one which actually downloads, rather than recording on-the-fly - otherwise it'll take the realtime duration of the program to download. Again, taking the example above, downloading the rtsp stream from rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio2/r2_evans_wed.ra ends up with a file called r2_evans_wed.ra on your PC. You can also use Offline Explorer or similar to download a whole bunch of files at one time.

Right, now you have a load of .ra (Real) files. If you're lucky you may be able to find an mp3 player which can play Real files directly. None of mine do (and I don't know of one which does) so it's batch convert .ra to .mp3 time. I use Fairstars Audio Converter, but there are probably loads out there which do the same sort of thing.

Hope this helps,

Happy (and hopefully peaceful) New Year to all, Kronalias

snissenbaum

Using opera mobile and real player I can play both listen again and live audio direct from the bbc website.I get error message saying real player is not installed. Cancel this then click on play with stand alone real player. Then click on open and real player starts
Actually using x51v WM5