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Old 02-23-07, 08:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Core player update?

Is there EVER going to be another update to the Core Player? It's still got some glitches (like MMS streams which won't play properly on Core Player, but will on TCPMP).
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Old 02-23-07, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Dunno, but you could ask BetaBoy himself on the CoreCodec forums. By the way, the latest version is 1.0.4, so there have been updates since 1.0.0.
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Old 02-23-07, 12:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think I've got 1.0.4, but I'll double check. My Axim's in the other room. Thanks.
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Old 02-23-07, 05:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have stated this on our new forums but figure i'd post it here since googlebot picked up this thread....

We are going to be releasing CorePlayer 1.1 in March. There are some very big changes to CorePlayer 1.1, those being:

- Mucho-mega bug fixes for all platforms (mostly Palm and update for TYTN)
- Skin loading time / Player start time improved
- Initial phone pause/play support
- Codec additions/changes
- Splitter additions/changes
- Finalized Universal Skins specification
- Revamped GUI Skin by Tunji

But the biggest part of the 1.1 release addition is our CoreTheque Media Library addition. CT as we call it brings a new level of media management to the mobile media space... a quick CT overview;

The CoreTheque DB is updated everytime you load a file(s) in CorePlayer. It contains metadata of all the files used, like Artist, Album, Year, Genre, etc. The CoreTheque navigation works by pages, where you select items for corresponding to the page displayed. Once it's done you can continue and make a finer selection for other items, or finish to see the files selected. You can also save selections as a playlist... the playlists are displayed in the main (first) page after the main items.

Exporting? Sure... You can export selections (as well as the selection) into a separate file. You can also add a folders and its subfolders to the main DB (yes it is itunes compatible).

On DB filling.... The files are read in the background (idle time) to get their meta data to fill the DB until this is done the files are just available from their filename.

A good read is this thread on our forums:
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=28.0

It provides an overview of what each milestone release will be:

- 1.0 to 1.1... fix major bugs, finalize skins based on feedback and bring Symbian up to code
- 1.1 to 1.2... fix bugs, introduce the Media Library and in a 1.2.x release streaming
- 1.2 to 1.3... fix bugs, introduce Seek and Share
- 1.3 to 1.5... fix bugs. Introduce SyncML modules and backend web integration

There are many other things along the way that will be added like I/O plug-ins, CoreVector (our animation suite), Visualization library (2D and 3D), subtitles and the like... but as Slem on the forums has indicated I will not tag dates but rather just the stated goals of each major release.
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Old 03-07-07, 08:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What about AVRCP support? I bought Coreplayer on the understanding that it had AVRCP support, but no such luck.

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Old 03-08-07, 12:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Robb: It works on SOME devices, and not others - my Axim x51v, for example, refused to work with AVRCP on both TCPMP and CorePlayer. Other people don't seem to have issues with their non-Axim devices, however. From what BetaBoy said, it's looking like some chipsets just hate the way Core implements AVRCP.
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Old 03-27-07, 02:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Try installing the widcomm stack to get AVRCP to work
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Old 03-27-07, 07:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Want WORKING AVRCP? Here you go

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From what BetaBoy said, it's looking like some chipsets just hate the way Core implements AVRCP.
That makes no sense at all. "Some chipsets just hate the way..." is used-car salesman-speak (haha). If you want AVRCP to work, use iPlay, or Zircon. Zircon only works in the old-style (pre-Wm5) AVRCP when copying the iPlay bt* ini file to the app data folder used by Zircon. But who uses 2003 anymore? It doesn't work because you have to know how to program it to make it work. It's as simple as that. There's no "some chipsets hate..." to it. haha -- some people will buy any lame excuse (again and again).

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Old 03-27-07, 10:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I use 2003. I don't plan to change until I buy a new device.
I would use iplay if it worked with 2003.
Thousands of folks are still using X5s, X3s, X30s, x50 for which Wm5 is not available.
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Old 03-27-07, 07:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I use 2003. I don't plan to change until I buy a new device.
I would use iplay if it worked with 2003.
Thousands of folks are still using X5s, X3s, X30s, x50 for which Wm5 is not available.
I've got a wm5 CD for an x50 I'd sell you REAL cheap. If there were a CD I'd want to use as a frisbee, that'd be the first I choose. As I wrote, Zircon installs on a 2003 if AS4+ is used, and Zircon is all I've used for the past several months. It works 100% as advertised (and then some). But I can see those on old, obsolete tech wanting old, obsolete software with which they are familar. Zircon is for new stuff, with screens that flip, for one-handed operation, easy to use (works sort of like an ipod, but better). iPlay v1 dates to early 2001, the pre-ipod era. The Zircon player's EXE filesize is something like 180 KB, and yet it does everything it needs to do. It handles 1500 files, no problem (SD4 + CF8), and is ready just as fast at 1500 files as it is with two files.




Someone should write "comedy" on the core link. That thread looks just like a used-car sales lot, with some real big ugly fat ... guy BS'ing anyone and everyone that'll fall for it. LOL It's a comedy, well, looking in from the outside it is.

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Old 03-28-07, 12:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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That makes no sense at all. "Some chipsets just hate the way..." is used-car salesman-speak (haha). If you want AVRCP to work, use iPlay, or Zircon. Zircon only works in the old-style (pre-Wm5) AVRCP when copying the iPlay bt* ini file to the app data folder used by Zircon. But who uses 2003 anymore? It doesn't work because you have to know how to program it to make it work. It's as simple as that. There's no "some chipsets hate..." to it. haha -- some people will buy any lame excuse (again and again).

This way to the egress

http://zircon.40th.com/

Well, considering it works on some devices and not on others... there's probably something TO that theory, especially since all you're doing here is bashing one product in order to promote your own. PocketPlayer and WMP dont' have issues with AVRCP on my Axim x51v - TCPMP and CorePlayer, on the other hand, don't work with AVRCP on the same device... which suggests there's something with the program that doesn't like either the chipsets or the BT stack used. Considering I had the same lack of AVRCP on an hx2490 which comes with Widcomm's BT stack, I doubt it's a stack-related issue.

Speaking of lame excuses, when will I be able to actually load the page to try the product? The only way I can get there is with Google's cache. I can't say I'm impressed with the type of behavior that gets called 'trolling' on some forums.

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I've got a wm5 CD for an x50 I'd sell you REAL cheap. If there were a CD I'd want to use as a frisbee, that'd be the first I choose. As I wrote, Zircon installs on a 2003 if AS4+ is used, and Zircon is all I've used for the past several months. It works 100% as advertised (and then some). But I can see those on old, obsolete tech wanting old, obsolete software with which they are familar. Zircon is for new stuff, with screens that flip, for one-handed operation, easy to use (works sort of like an ipod, but better). iPlay v1 dates to early 2001, the pre-ipod era. The Zircon player's EXE filesize is something like 180 KB, and yet it does everything it needs to do. It handles 1500 files, no problem (SD4 + CF8), and is ready just as fast at 1500 files as it is with two files.




Someone should write "comedy" on the core link. That thread looks just like a used-car sales lot, with some real big ugly fat ... guy BS'ing anyone and everyone that'll fall for it. LOL It's a comedy, well, looking in from the outside it is.
Incidentally, since when was insulting a customer considered a good way to promote your product? I'd personally suggest taking PR lessons from Apple or some other company whose products are widely sold (and admired). And maybe unblocking most IP ranges. :D

Seriously, mods, can we get a warning for trolling? This is getting a BIT much, and he's not contributing anything to the forums...

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Seriously, mods, can we get a warning for trolling? This is getting a BIT much, and he's not contributing anything to the forums...
I agree with this, these day all he seems to do is barge into a thread badmouth what is currently there and then shamelesly say "Well my software does it right!" knowing full well that he has personally blocked half the users of this site from ever being able to look at his software and insulted the other half by calling us a nest of pirates.

I've tried his software and while I admit that it is quite good, there are cheaper alternatives that are just as good and a hell of a lot easier to get a hold of. I considered buying iPlay, but at half the price Coreplayer wins by playing so many more formats and not having the developers constantly harassing us.


I would have bought iPlay, if only 40th Floor hadn't encouraged me to buy Coreplayer.

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I use 2003. I don't plan to change until I buy a new device.
I would use iplay if it worked with 2003.
Thousands of folks are still using X5s, X3s, X30s, x50 for which Wm5 is not available.
1000s maybe, but I know who buys (and even looks) for what, and it's not x5s, x3s, x30s, or x50s. But, just for you, and a limited time:

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Thank you 40th floor. I'm checking it out.
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