Got the new Core Player. BFD!

Mike Walker · 06-21-07, 08:34 AM

I'm sorry guys (Core Codec Team), but this is beginning to smell like Thanksgiving dinner. YES video playback is smooth, and codec support is great. But there are still LOTS of streams that play fine on the old (.71r) FREE TCPMP that won't play on CorePlayer. I get a freakin' "File not found...." error. So I deselect all the file associations in Core Player, click on the link again, and BANG...the streams play JUST FINE in the version I ddn't shell out thirty bucks for.

If it walks like a turkey, smells like Thanksgiving dinner, and goes "gobble gobble", well......

Julie · 06-21-07, 01:12 PM

Have you reported this issue to CorePlayer?

julie

Mike Walker · 06-21-07, 01:20 PM

I reported it on the last version. We have lots of features, but as far as I can tell, no improvement in actually performing the claimed tasks. I'm not a beta tester. I'm a PAYING CUSTOMER. An important distinction.

mphayvanh · 06-21-07, 02:37 PM

I bought 1.0 and upgraded to 1.1 BUT find myself still using 72RC1 TCPMP becuase the features I like in TCPMP is more convenient and works better too.

06-21-07, 02:59 PM

And I -think- they posted that some of the advanced streaming features won't be in till 1.2 or 1.3, IIRC. When did you buy this again? The posts indicating this date back to the middle of last year, from what I remember, back before 1.02 came out.

Mike Walker · 06-21-07, 03:34 PM

I bought it when it first came out...the very first verson. I think I bought it the first day Mobihand had it.

06-21-07, 03:55 PM

Then in that case, yeah, you've at least got an excuse. mphayvanh, on the other hand... ;)

My big reason for getting CP, outside of supporting the devs, was for AVC playback - and on THAT, it delivered better than TCPMP did. I've other programs I currently use for streaming audio (PocketPlayer 3's pretty good), which I suggest you try out too.

I run both programs, and while they're overlapping now (Conduits added video to PocketPlayer 3, CorePlayer 1.1 adds AVCRP support that was missing up till now and a better playlist), I tend to favor PocketPlayer for music and Core for video.

betaboy · 06-28-07, 05:54 AM

Mike W.... While I respect your opinion.... alot of effort on our part has gone into CorePlayer. Advanced Streaming in case you did not know is not coming till our next milestone build with version 1.2.

Now with 1.1.1 coming out later today we have done over 175 changes/additions/fixes since last Mondays release alone and have listened to the feedback on CoreTheque. CT is now 10x more manageable to 'use' as we have concentrated this release on usability and made the communities suggestions to the DB.

We have also added 'local network' (SMB) detection so you can now add networked shares to the DB.

I would also like to state that alot of what we are also doing with CorePlayer will be open source with the release of BetaPlayer later this year ( BetaPlayer - The Open Source Multimedia Platform ). The UI will reflect a slightly modified and skinned TCPMP 'like' interface.

Mike Walker · 06-28-07, 06:00 AM

"Advanced streaming"...you mean like used to be on TCPMP for free? You guys ever heard of copy and paste?

Sorry to be so skeptical, but that's the kind of reaction you'll find when features disappear from a paid product (and I'm happy to pay) that used to be on the free one. Take a step outside, and look at it if YOU were sitting at my keyboard, having to pay for a player (again, glad to!), only to find that you needed to keep the free one to listen to, or view lots of streams. Would YOU be happy about that? You may be a "beta boy". I AM NOT! I am a paying customer!

06-28-07, 07:17 PM

Well, considering it's a different codebase, 'copy and paste' is a LITTLE more complicated than that. It's most of the same team, but new code from what I remember. Besides which, I didn't recall being able to use some of that networking stuff too well in TCPMP - but that's why I bought PocketPlayer, way back when, for audio.

Seriously, though - from the very beginning, they were talking about two products: CorePlayer and BetaPlayer, the latter of which would be the spiritual descendant of TCPMP, free of charge albeit minus some of the paid codecs available in CorePlayer. Personally, I never saw why people used TCPMP for audio purposes; yes, it was low resource, but it lacked a lot of features for audio playback (bookmarks for audio books, working AVCRP, good playlist management features) that were available in the free programs MortPlayer and GSPlayer, or paid programs like PocketMusic and PocketPlayer.

Now, if there's another six-month wait to go from 1.1.1 to 1.2, I'll be a bit pissed...

runnr548 · 06-28-07, 07:55 PM

I've enjoyed TCPMP quite a lot!