dvd to computer

hanna975 · 07-18-04, 10:51 AM

Hi all,

I've seen all the settings on getting DVD's to PPC, but what if you want to watch on you computer. Does anyone know the settings for DVDx 2.2. I'd like to get them to a manageable size and in a format most players will play, like winamp or WMP.

I'm networking my house with a couple computers and I want access to my DVD collection on all of them without having all my hard drives full of movies.

I'm experimenting with some settings, but each experiment takes a few hours since my current computer is a P4 1.3 ghz. I'm hoping someone will have what I need to save me some time.

Thanks in advance for any info you provide.:yeah:

bigds63 · 07-18-04, 12:28 PM

My Guide here DVD Ripping shows the settings to take your DVD to VCD size using DVDx2.2, just don't do the divx encoding at the end of the guide, that is for PPC. Also if you click the banner on top of this page, mVIDEO,mDVD, this program when using mDVD and ripping your DVD with the .wmv for PPC. It will make a High Quality Divx 600-700 MB, that you could use to stream to your Networked PC's plus it will also take that same divx file and encode it for PPC in wmv format.

hanna975 · 07-18-04, 03:46 PM

Hey BigD,
Actually, I was using your guide. I was looking for better quality than the VCD size when finished. As close to DVD quality as possible. I don't mind if it's around 2 or 3 gigs, just the same format as DVDx 2.2 puts it in. I just can't seem to find the right settings in that program to get the quality I want.

P.S.
Thanks for putting that guide out, it's really helpful to make PPC videos.

bigds63 · 07-18-04, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hanna975
Hey BigD,
Actually, I was using your guide. I was looking for better quality than the VCD size when finished. As close to DVD quality as possible. I don't mind if it's around 2 or 3 gigs, just the same format as DVDx 2.2 puts it in. I just can't seem to find the right settings in that program to get the quality I want.

P.S.
Thanks for putting that guide out, it's really helpful to make PPC videos.

Although it would not be in an mpeg format such as a VCD, DVDx2.2 can also do divx. Choose the drop down arrow that I show in the output settings and enter the bitrates.(see image) Just set a high bitrate say around 500-700kbps on video, this would give you high quality and if you decide to encode it later for PPC it should still keep a fairly decent quality.

bigds63 · 07-18-04, 09:48 PM

Image from above post

leemind · 07-18-04, 10:13 PM

I use DVD Shrink 3.1 and really like it. You are able to re-author DVDs taking out all the unneeded stuff IE menus, languages, extra etc. I have found it pretty user friendly too.

hanna975 · 07-19-04, 05:58 PM

Thanks BidD,
I'll give that a try when I get home and let you know how it works.

Leemind,
Do you have any info for DVDshrink. Links or price. I'm trying to keep everything on the cheap since I already spend too much money on my tech habits.

wmcjhi · 07-19-04, 06:23 PM

My advice is to cut this discussion before you get in trouble. Simply putting the DVD on your harddrive is illegal in most cases, making discussion of this quite illegal and bad for aximsite if someone saw it who cared...

hanna975 · 07-19-04, 08:21 PM

I'm going to start by saying I'm not going to get into a huge debate about who's right and who's wrong on this like other topics I've seen in here(wifi-if you didn't pay for it, it's not yours).

My original post says this is "my" DVD collection that "I" wish to watch on "my" computers. I'm not trying to share or give or sell or anything like that. I just wish to enjoy what I "pay" for the way I want to.

I understand the whole illegal downloading of music and movies and the anything of the sort. This isn't what I'm doing and this isn't what I'm going to do.

If it's illegal to make copies of what I paid for for my personal use, and I stress "my personal use", please include a link to where it is proven and documented illegal and I will end it there.

I'm sorry if this sounds a little harsh, but I'm fed up with all these companies out there who take my hard earned money when I buy something and then tell me I'm not allowed to use it or enjoy it the way I want to. I pay my money for what I have and the artist get their share and the companies also get the share. They can go after the people who downloaded(steal) it for free or offer for free but leave the people alone who put the money in their pockets.

It has never paid off to bite the hands that feed. And the customers feed them.

leemind · 07-19-04, 08:41 PM

Dvd Shrink is freeware and I would just punch it in to google.

On a side note- I would also like to see a link saying that it is illegal to put personally purchased DVD's on your personal computer for personal use. I would like to know if I am personally breaking the law.

P.S. I like to back them up in case my children happen to scratch them.

EDIT: Disclaimer- I don't live in the US right now so this program may not be legal in the US.

07-19-04, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hanna975
I'm going to start by saying I'm not going to get into a huge debate about who's right and who's wrong on this like other topics I've seen in here(wifi-if you didn't pay for it, it's not yours).

My original post says this is "my" DVD collection that "I" wish to watch on "my" computers. I'm not trying to share or give or sell or anything like that. I just wish to enjoy what I "pay" for the way I want to.

I understand the whole illegal downloading of music and movies and the anything of the sort. This isn't what I'm doing and this isn't what I'm going to do.

If it's illegal to make copies of what I paid for for my personal use, and I stress "my personal use", please include a link to where it is proven and documented illegal and I will end it there.

Yes, it IS illegal for you (if you live in the USA) to make copies of a DVD that you paid for... even for personal use. Ever heard of something called the DMCA? Digital Millenium Copyright Act. Basically, it makes it a crime to decrypt data that was been intentionally encrypted. DVDs have been encrypted, and apps like DeCSS, SmartRipper, DVDDecrypt, etc. break that encryption.

http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf

http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/dmca1.htm

http://anti-dmca.org/

leemind · 07-19-04, 09:30 PM

Thanks for those links. Interesting reading :rolling: However, after doing some research of my own. I still can't tell what's is really legal and what is not legal. It looks to me as if it is not as cut and dried as I thought it might be

I found this quote
"The Digital Millennium Copyright Act [DMCA] allows authorized equipment and software, such as hardware and software DVD players, to unlock the Content Scrambling System and Macrovision protection on DVDs."

"allows authorized equipment and software". That 'authorized' means you already pay some license fees back to MPAA on the electronics which must be included in the hardware. Now the software part is another story.

(http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread/t-26864.html)
It sounds to me like it is the software that is illegal not the burning of the DVD?
So is it illegal to put movies onto your PDA?

I am so confused!
Oh yeah and then throw this link in too:
http://www.protectfairuse.org/consum...w_playing.html

hanna975 · 07-19-04, 10:13 PM

This is a quote from the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that I found interesting. From what I make out, paragraph B and C says it's not illegal. Note where it says "shall not apply to users of a copyrighted work" and "make noninfringing uses of that particular class of works". Paragraph C seems to repeat what B says, just with more words.

Again, let me say. I bought the movie, I'm watching the movie, not downloading the movie for free, not posting on a P2P site for others to download for free. I just chose to watch it on my computer. I agree that everyone involved in making the movie has the right to protect it and get paid for their efforts. I paid and now I wish to enjoy it.

So far I haven't found anything to counter that, but I'll keep looking. This is a lot to read. I see that this is intended to stop pirating music, movies, software etc. which I'm not doing.

"Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems

`(a) VIOLATIONS REGARDING CIRCUMVENTION OF TECHNOLOGICAL MEASURES- (1)(A) No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall take effect at the end of the 2-year period beginning on the date of the enactment of this chapter.

`(B) The prohibition contained in subparagraph (A) shall not apply to persons who are users of a copyrighted work which is in a particular class of works, if such persons are, or are likely to be in the succeeding 3-year period, adversely affected by virtue of such prohibition in their ability to make noninfringing uses of that particular class of works under this title, as determined under subparagraph (C).

`(C) During the 2-year period described in subparagraph (A), and during each succeeding 3-year period, the Librarian of Congress, upon the recommendation of the Register of Copyrights, who shall consult with the Assistant Secretary for Communications and Information of the Department of Commerce and report and comment on his or her views in making such recommendation, shall make the determination in a rulemaking proceeding on the record for purposes of subparagraph (B) of whether persons who are users of a copyrighted work are, or are likely to be in the succeeding 3-year period, adversely affected by the prohibition under subparagraph (A) in their ability to make noninfringing uses under this title of a particular class of copyrighted works. In conducting such rulemaking, the Librarian shall examine--"

hanna975 · 07-19-04, 10:22 PM

I understand it is illegal to do this with the movies I own.

1. Post the movie on P2P networks.
2. Make copies for friends.
3. Allow a child to take the movie to daycare so they, and friends could watch.(Which daycares have been sued, reason is, they didn't pay licensing fees to play the movies).

As cold-hearted as the last one sounds, I understand why. The daycare is benefiting without proper compesation to the companies involved in making the movie.

This isn't what I'm talking about though. I agree these should be illegal. I'm talking personal use.

AMike · 07-19-04, 10:56 PM

It's not illegal to copy; however, it is illegal to circumvent copywrite protection such as CSS on DVDs in order to make copies per section 1202(b) of the DMCA:

(b) Removal or Alteration of Copyright Management Information. -
No person shall, without the authority of the copyright owner or
the law -
(1) intentionally remove or alter any copyright management
information,

Very silly law if you ask me - I think it violates "fair use," but then again, IANAL.