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Old 10-15-04, 06:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Cannot Stream Video from Websites w/ PIE
When I use my WinXP desktop to go to a website that has streaming videos and click on a wmv video it usually will pop up the Win Media Player and play the wmv file video.
However, when I go to the same site with my Axim X30 using Pocket Internet Explorer, through a Hi speed WiFi connection, and click on the same wmv video file the Media Player Does NOT pop up and play the file, plus the Axim freezes up.
The wmv file is encoded for very low bandwidth approx 42kbps, and 180x120 size.
Is it NOT possible to play streaming videos on a Pocket PC through Pocket Internet Explorer. Am I doing something wrong, or does that website need to hyperlink the video in a certain way in order to allow PIE to pop-up the pocket PC version of Win Media Player.
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Old 10-15-04, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by goomba
When I use my WinXP desktop to go to a website that has streaming videos and click on a wmv video it usually will pop up the Win Media Player and play the wmv file video.
However, when I go to the same site with my Axim X30 using Pocket Internet Explorer, through a Hi speed WiFi connection, and click on the same wmv video file the Media Player Does NOT pop up and play the file, plus the Axim freezes up.
The wmv file is encoded for very low bandwidth approx 42kbps, and 180x120 size.
Is it NOT possible to play streaming videos on a Pocket PC through Pocket Internet Explorer. Am I doing something wrong, or does that website need to hyperlink the video in a certain way in order to allow PIE to pop-up the pocket PC version of Win Media Player.
Thanks for any replies.
I am not sure if this will be helpful, but I have had trouble getting many streaming video/audio sites to work with PIE... but I have been able to work around most of them by using PIEPLUS to view-source on the page that is supposed to have the video/audio stream. I look for a URL beginning with mms:// and copy/paste that into the PIE address line. This typically will launch WMP with the appropriate information to get the stream.

Once it is playing in WMP, I save it as a Web Favorite, so it is easier to return to.

I have not experienced the type of feeze or problem that you are referring to though.
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Thanks CTC,
That is an interesting workaround. However, since I am trying to understand how to post streaming video content on my website so that an end user could navigate to the site using PIE and then simply click on a selected video from a list of videos, and have that video just pop up the Media Player and play it just like the the desktop version of IE would do.
Your workaround suggests that this should be possible, so I am hoping that someone here can direct me to a thread or article that discusses this. I could not find anything addressing this through Windows Mobile website or the Windows Media site.
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Originally Posted by goomba
Thanks CTC,
That is an interesting workaround. However, since I am trying to understand how to post streaming video content on my website so that an end user could navigate to the site using PIE and then simply click on a selected video from a list of videos, and have that video just pop up the Media Player and play it just like the the desktop version of IE would do.
Your workaround suggests that this should be possible, so I am hoping that someone here can direct me to a thread or article that discusses this. I could not find anything addressing this through Windows Mobile website or the Windows Media site.
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I'm not sure were you can go to read up on the matter, but as my experience goes, CTC is right. To start off with you need to have mms:// and then were your file is located in the address of the video file. But the main thing is the way you Encode your video. It has to be encoded as a streaming video and not just a standard encode for Pocket Pc for example that Windows media Encoder does. For the difference would be the whole video would have to be downloaded before it starts to play in WMP if its not in a streaming format. So you also might want to look into that also.
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Old 10-16-04, 12:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by bigds63
I'm not sure were you can go to read up on the matter, but as my experience goes, CTC is right. To start off with you need to have mms:// and then were your file is located in the address of the video file. But the main thing is the way you Encode your video. It has to be encoded as a streaming video and not just a standard encode for Pocket Pc for example that Windows media Encoder does. For the difference would be the whole video would have to be downloaded before it starts to play in WMP if its not in a streaming format. So you also might want to look into that also.
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I have a fairly decent understanding of encoding procedures. I need to learn more.

I checked out your encoding website. Very Nice!

What I am having trouble with is the creation of a web page with a list of videos that would be accessable for streaming and/or downloading to a Pocket PC.

I am under the impression that if I have a link on a web page to a properly encoded wmv video, that link must point to an ASX file which in turn will reference the WMV file stored on the HTTP server, AND the ASX file will cause the Win Media Player to pop up and play the referenced WMV. file.

I am not sure I understand where your reference to the MMS:// would come into play. Would you mind explaining the significance of the MMS://.

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Are there any cool sites for streaming internet video/tv on the Axim?

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Originally Posted by FallN
Are there any cool sites for streaming internet video/tv on the Axim?

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www.ppcvidz.com Most streams are free, downloads require subscription.
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Old 10-17-04, 02:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Thanks BigDave, but how do I start streaming from that site??? I click on the channel but nothing happens!
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Originally Posted by bigds63
www.ppcvidz.com Most streams are free, downloads require subscription.
That's the one I was going to recommend too, good call.

Here is the url I have on my Axim http://www.ppcvidz.com/small/smallindex.asp

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Thanks MMMMike. That version of the site works MUCH better for me.
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