If I sign up for this, is there any limitation as far as moving the file where I want on my computer...or to a MP3 player or my X50v?
The Yahoo Music Engine runs on your PC. The subscription service allows you to download music to play on your PC and the tracks can also be synched to a compatible MP3 player (see http://www.playsforsure.com/Advance...bscription=true ) or they can be played on your x50v using WMP10.
I believe you are also able to play your "rented" tracks on up to 3 different computers so you can share tracks with other PC's in your home too.
The Yahoo Music Engine runs on your PC. The subscription service allows you to download music to play on your PC and the tracks can also be synched to a compatible MP3 player (see http://www.playsforsure.com/Advance...bscription=true ) or they can be played on your x50v using WMP10.
I believe you are also able to play your "rented" tracks on up to 3 different computers so you can share tracks with other PC's in your home too.
Do you know of, (could you list for me?) some compatible players. I was very excited about this service- and then very bummed when I found out I need wmp10- I don't have 2003 SE. This might actually cheer me up again- thanks! :)
So far so good... my big complaint is syncing is painfully slow. Its almost .... and I say almost... a deal breaker for me. However the price and convience is worth it.
Has any one tried bringing in tracks to WMP10 on the PC side? I did, I like the interface of WMP10 over YUM's interface. Additionally WMP sends over the album artwork when you sync, YUM does not. In a nutshell, I download with YUM, sync and play with WMP10.
I'm not gonna argue any longer. In fact, it's my last post in this thread. I just wanna quote a few REAL LIFE customers` comments. I'm sure you can easily find them on the Net - just google something like "DRM restriction"
If you need to do a system restore on your PC, I discovered, the DRM system will decide you're obviously up to no good and "lock" all your music. Both the stuff you've laboriously copied yourself from your own CDs and the stuff you've legally downloaded. I lost several albums I'd paid £8.99 to download and was told my only choice was to pay for them again.
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I don't have trouble downloading iTunes onto CD. In fact there is a CD burner included. What I have trouble with is that you can't swap music using your system if it wasn't recorded on your PC in the first place. Why? DRM is stupid and frustrating way to control recorded medium, and my orignal source may be my spoken words, or me practicing on my guitar. It doesn't matter: I still can't 'Check In' to burn it onto CD.
-------------------------------------------------------- The stupid thing about DRM is that it doesn't work - it's just annoying, and anyone with a CD rewriter can circumvent it. Treating your customers as if they were criminal simply encourages criminal behaviour. I don't share any of the files I buy from the iTunes and Coke music stores with anyone, but as a matter of principle I remove the copy protection straight away, so I can use the songs on whatever computer or music player I want.
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Would you buy a car which could only drive to five locations on just three roads, required repurchasing when it broke down, with only three people a day allowed to be passengers and no option for other drivers to use it....and it cost more than a normal car without all the problems?
-------------------------------------------------------- I won't buy DRM'd music. I want to play the music I buy on whatever system I wish. DRM is causing the music industry to lose my custom. Trouble is most people aren't aware of what DRM is and how it restricts them.
P.S. Wow! You can find a lot of interesting things about DRM by searching AXIMSITE
Originally Posted by captpg
"I had neglected to mention that I was trying to stay away from WMP on the desktop. I had installed it on the desktop one or two versions ago and it seemed to creep into all sorts of undesired areas, stealing file associations and resulting in problems with other programs. Also, even though I thought Ihad turned DRM (Digital Rights Management) off, somehow it had become activated, and after a system crash I lost the ability to play a lot of the music I had (legally!) copied from my CDs. It was an unhappy experience."
If you need to do a system restore on your PC, I discovered, the DRM system will decide you're obviously up to no good and "lock" all your music. Both the stuff you've laboriously copied yourself from your own CDs and the stuff you've legally downloaded. I lost several albums I'd paid £8.99 to download and was told my only choice was to pay for them again.
You can have your music on one than more computer, YMU lets you have it on 3. Even if you "loose" all your YMU music on a PC, you can download everything again... CD's??? What are those? I copied my CD's along time ago and store the copies away from my house. I havent played a CD in my house or car or anywhere else in a couple of years or more. CD's are becoming tomorrows casettes and 8-tracks. Think not? Take a look at the camera industry... digital is more popular than film even in SLR's. I consider your lost albums no worse than anyone else who suffers a data loss because of poor data backup management. Too bad ... so sad.
Originally Posted by wolfRX
I don't have trouble downloading iTunes onto CD. In fact there is a CD burner included. What I have trouble with is that you can't swap music using your system if it wasn't recorded on your PC in the first place. Why? DRM is stupid and frustrating way to control recorded medium, and my orignal source may be my spoken words, or me practicing on my guitar. It doesn't matter: I still can't 'Check In' to burn it onto CD.
Again... I could care less about CD's, but if you want to burn original material without DRM or iTunes, why dont you use a different application?
Originally Posted by wolfRX
The stupid thing about DRM is that it doesn't work - it's just annoying, and anyone with a CD rewriter can circumvent it. Treating your customers as if they were criminal simply encourages criminal behaviour. I don't share any of the files I buy from the iTunes and Coke music stores with anyone, but as a matter of principle I remove the copy protection straight away, so I can use the songs on whatever computer or music player I want.
Burning a CD to eliminate DRM and then re-ripping degrades your music, at least to a discerning ear. If that floats someones boat than more power to them. Face it.. its a hassle to do that so you can send your buddy a digital copy of your DRM'd album without DRM.
Another thing, I treat almost everyone I meet with respect and expect them to obey the law... but I still lock my house when I leave and still lock my car when I park it. What's the difference?
Originally Posted by wolfRX
Would you buy a car which could only drive to five locations on just three roads, required repurchasing when it broke down, with only three people a day allowed to be passengers and no option for other drivers to use it....and it cost more than a normal car without all the problems?
Your car scenerio is pointless and flawed. People lease cars all the time with a milage restriction too. You have an option, buy or lease. Its up to you. I guess you will be sticking to purchasing CDs. Good for you.
Originally Posted by wolfRX
I won't buy DRM'd music. I want to play the music I buy on whatever system I wish. DRM is causing the music industry to lose my custom. Trouble is most people aren't aware of what DRM is and how it restricts them.
Restricts you... but not me. Its a matter of choice.
Will this work with the x30? Anyone know? This looks really cool
It didn't work for me last night. Just to be clear, I assume we are talking about the music-subscription service option, not tracks that you buy for 79 cents.
First, My X30 and the storage card are visible in the Yahoo Music Engine. That was a positive sign.
I added the new Bruce Springsteen CD to "My Music". In "My Music", I highlighted and dragged the tracks to the storage card under devices. I immediately got a popup window that the device was not supported. I'll get the exact wording of the error later today.
If someone else has the Yahoo subscription service working with the X30, please describe your exact setup and manner of transferring the tracks.
Has any one tried bringing in tracks to WMP10 on the PC side? I did, I like the interface of WMP10 over YUM's interface. Additionally WMP sends over the album artwork when you sync, YUM does not. In a nutshell, I download with YUM, sync and play with WMP10.
Kilo,
I do this too, and I did it with Napster as well. I found it much easier to sync to my Axim and definitely alot faster. :approve:
I did find that YMU was slow and had trouble loading when I tried it this weekend though. I did finally get it to work OK by clearing all temporary internet files (offline content too) and clearing all cookies. I also increased the size of the temporary files cache. It worked a lot better after that.
I have Windows Mobile Media Player 10 on my Axim x30 and it is playing without a problem. I have to say I like the idea. Everything is legal. I get to listen to the music I want. The price is pretty much right. I'll give it the seven days and see what I think.
Since I can buy the music if I desire to burn or share it it doesn't seem like such a bad idea. COurse I don't have a car charger for my Axim. How long will it last without an extended battery and no car charger?
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