axim_wannabe

hi!

ive done some searches through Aximsite, and Google - but cannot seem to find an answer whether surround sound is possible with the Axim x50v, and if so, how...

i am planning on connecting a noise reduction stereo headphone to the Axim x50v, and would like to enjoy MP3s as much as i do with my desktop...

cheers!!!

and thanks!!!

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MSAgent

You can't do "surround" on Stereo devices and most headphones don't really support it. If some software tells you it makes surround sound come from your stereo headphones it's pure BS.

csurban

Like MSAgent said, surround sound has nothing to do with the quality of the sound. It just has 5 channels of sound instead of 2(Stereo). You won't ever be able to experience surround sound correctly anyway unless you set up the 5 speakers in the right place relative to the listener. ALL HEADPHONES are stereo or mono. To have surround sound, the speakers HAVE to be a certain distance from the listener. That’s how you get the mix of the different sounds from different directions. Answering your question of the Axim having it, there are a couple of things that make it impossible.

1. The only output is a STEREO headphone jack. If you look on the jack you see large rings of metal surrounded by slivers of plastic. The headphone jack has only 3 different metal connectors one for left, right, and ???. If anyone can tell me what the last ring is for it would be greatly appreciated . I believe that surround enabled devices use 5 different standard Audio cables, each connecting to different speakers.

2. Unless you have music that has 5 different channels of audio muxed in which most people don't, you have to have Dolby Surround or Digital or whatever they use nowadays. I know that regular Dolby Surround works by identifying different kHz frequency some how and determines which speaker to send it to. In this way, Dolby Surround enabled devices can take mono and stereo inputs and output it to 5 channels of sound. Unfortunately, this is mostly available on high end amplifiers where it can be enjoyed the most.

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paulocesar

I´ve seen once a headphone with surround (at least what they said), but for our axim just buy some good stereo headphones, some come with noise reduction and enriched bass, some work even with batteries.

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Don't Panic!

Hi aw,

It's doable and easy. Use the search term X50mix here and enjoy. You'll be amazed by the sonic experience.

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It is possible but not practical, the analog surround systems Dolby Pro Logic, Pro Logic II and Pro Logic IIx all use matrix encoding to embed surround information in a stereo signal but require an external decoder to retrieve this information. If you connect your Axim to a Surround Amplifier that supports Pro Logic and play Pro Logic encoded material it will come out in surround.

Real surround headphones like those manufactured by Zalman are not compatible with the Axim as the headphones have 3 separate stereo jacks.

The closest thing you are likely to get working is a pseudo-surround effect which is just that, an effect, not real surround sound. GSPlayer has this effect as well as bass boost, echo and reverb effects, it is free software and works very nicely. As Don'tPanic! mentioned above x50mix does the same thing by changing the x50's sound hardware settings which will affect playback of all audio players, but again it is a delay effect not surround sound.

Originally Posted by csurban

If anyone can tell me what the last ring is for it would be greatly appreciated.

The sleeve conductor (the one closest to the cable) is the ground line. The Axim actually has a 4 conductors inside the 3.5mm (1/8 inch to our American friends) jack as an external microphone can be used if you have an adaptor, like this.

Don't Panic!

Gee guys, have you tried X50mix?

Granted, it may be psuedo-surround but doesn't it sound better? Try GSPlayer with X50Mix.

ya1950

Second vote for x50mix with GSPlayer. The sound is great with earphones (Sennheiser MX500's). GS player itself has a equilizer and 3D sound setting in the software but IMHO x50mix is better. Hope this helps

axim_wannabe

hhhmmm... im quite sure that ive set my initial thread to "instant notification," unfortunately, however; i didnt get any reply - until i checked my Subscribed Threads only to find out that a discussion has been going on....

anyway, i would like to thank everyone for their replies - yes, they are all informative...

well, it is just that i got this new stereo headphone, and then connected it to my desktop PC, and played some MP3s using PowerDVD 6 with the "Surround" functionality turned on - and WOW!!! the sound is completely awesome... and i was wondering if i can get the same kind of "effect" from the Ax through software, and a good headphone...

thoughts???

paulocesar

Try messing around with x50mix & GSPlayer.

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krypticide

Logitech speakers have a feature that lets you take a stereo output and convert it to surround. It actually works very well: when I listen to my music, background instruments and voices surround you but the vocals still come from the front speakers. I think they now call the feature "Matrix".

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axim_wannabe

Originally Posted by axim_wannabe

hhhmmm... im quite sure that ive set my initial thread to "instant notification," unfortunately, however; i didnt get any reply - until i checked my Subscribed Threads only to find out that a discussion has been going on.... anyway, i would like to thank everyone for their replies - yes, they are all informative... well, it is just that i got this new stereo headphone, and then connected it to my desktop PC, and played some MP3s using PowerDVD 6 with the "Surround" functionality turned on - and WOW!!! the sound is completely awesome... and i was wondering if i can get the same kind of "effect" from the Ax through software, and a good headphone... thoughts???

been so busy and all...

but i did get to try it - this is definitely AWESOME!!! hhhmmm... i wonder why i havent discovered this before!?!

anyway, who needs an iPOD!!!

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tstar

There is an article in the Jan 2006 Maximu PC issue talks about this with headphones. They show a picture of Sony' MDR-DS8000 headphone system that has a gyro in the headphones help maintain the spacial nature of surround sound as you turn your head. This is big stuff compaired to the PPC!

axzilla

Originally Posted by csurban

Like MSAgent said, surround sound has nothing to do with the quality of the sound. It just has 5 channels of sound instead of 2(Stereo). You won't ever be able to experience surround sound correctly anyway unless you set up the 5 speakers in the right place relative to the listener. ALL HEADPHONES are stereo or mono. To have surround sound, the speakers HAVE to be a certain distance from the listener. That’s how you get the mix of the different sounds from different directions. Answering your question of the Axim having it, there are a couple of things that make it impossible. 1. The only output is a STEREO headphone jack. If you look on the jack you see large rings of metal surrounded by slivers of plastic. The headphone jack has only 3 different metal connectors one for left, right, and ???. If anyone can tell me what the last ring is for it would be greatly appreciated . I believe that surround enabled devices use 5 different standard Audio cables, each connecting to different speakers. 2. Unless you have music that has 5 different channels of audio muxed in which most people don't, you have to have Dolby Surround or Digital or whatever they use nowadays. I know that regular Dolby Surround works by identifying different kHz frequency some how and determines which speaker to send it to. In this way, Dolby Surround enabled devices can take mono and stereo inputs and output it to 5 channels of sound. Unfortunately, this is mostly available on high end amplifiers where it can be enjoyed the most.

the last ring is the common ground
my tv does simulated surrond sound out of two speakers