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Old 12-05-05, 10:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just had an idea. Wouldn't it be neat to have something like a vibrating battery pack that would fit in the ax? Alot like cell phones, though i'm not sure how it could be wired in. I'm no computer engineer or anything. But having it vibrate along with alarms would be cool. Even possibly have different vibrating patterns for different alarms or something to that effect.
Maybe those are already available or in the works, but lemme know what you think.
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Old 12-05-05, 10:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey, that does sound like a pretty neat idea. I never really thought of it.
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PALM OS has it a long time ago, the issue is the constant vibration can damage the mainboard, that is why they remove it from the PALM's FYI
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Old 12-05-05, 08:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Huh, I never knew that. Seems like if they can make a computer that can fit in your pocket that they could invent a way for vibrations not to hurt it. But since I'm in an ideas mood today, what if it were something that wasn't directly connected to the ax? Well, i guess that seems kinda hokey. I dont know, maybe a little thing that has a small battery, vibrator and bluetooth reciever and then the alarm on the ax would route through the bluetooth. That seems kinda lame too. I dont know, somebody give me some ideas..
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Maybe a CF card that vibrates?
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That'd be another idea. But if the batterypack vibrating hurts the ax then i can't imagine a cf card would be better.
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Old 12-06-05, 12:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Well, the CF card wouldn't be on the mainboard itself, but connected via the CF pins. Might be hard on the CF connector pins, however. You could build some vibrational isolation into the card and have it stick out a little bit, with a small part used to transfer the vibration to the user.
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realistically i dont see how they dont already have a solution to this. cellphones have had vibrating components for a LONG time, and they dont fall apart. What different is a PDA?
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Exactly biohzrd. And Pocketbrain, the battery isn't connected to the mainboard itself either. Its hard to say why exactly they haven't pursued this area. It'd probably have to be an extended battery in order to get it to fit, but I really don't know. If I were a computer engineer I'd try to isolate the vibrations, etc, and try to make up a prototype, but i'm only a mechanical engineer.
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the vibrators themselfs arent that big. Go take apart some old crappy cell phone (first figure out where the main source of the vibration is)

they are tiny, like 1cm >_< and just have 2 wires
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I guess the answer is just that there is less market demand for this feature than for a smaller device. Still, there may just be an aftermarket for such an add-in. Smartphones and PDA phones have the vibration.
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Old 12-06-05, 07:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well big batteries sell like hotcakes from what I understand. A vibrator motor would easily fit in one of those. I'm not sure how small of a motor is available, but I have a catolog (not sure why it came in the mail, but it did) that vibrator motors are available in. The biggest problem I would imagine is how to connect the vibrator to the ax. Of course it would have to fit in place of any battery and there would be software to go along with it, but I'm not sure how advanced those 5 contacts are. 2 for power, 3 for information? Anyways, forgive my rambling, i'm just thinking outloud.
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Old 12-07-05, 11:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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On that magazine I mentioned I saw a vibrator motor that was 6mm in diameter and only 17 mm long. That may even fit in a normal sized battery. I apologize for the double post, but I kinda want to keep this one alive cause it seems like it'd be a real feasible project. For somebody who knows about this type of thing anyways.
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You'd have to start by documenting what exactly the pins in the battery compartment do. As you said, two HAVE to be for power... the question remains are the other 3 for battery monitoring or can the ax access them via software?
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Old 12-16-05, 10:36 AM   #15 (permalink)
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http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...d=1#post933667

There is another thread concerning the batteries.
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