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Old 12-26-02, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anyone here know any free wifi hotspots? I have heard of a couple places that offer wifi such as starbucks, airports, and some other places, but I am not sure if they give free access.

Anyone have knowledge on this topic?
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Old 12-26-02, 02:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Brian, Starbucks is not free - it is offering TMobile service, which has different plans. But you can try it - when opening an account, it gives you 24 free hours. No contract is required with "pay-as-you-go" plan so it is a real trial, no obligation.
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Old 12-26-02, 03:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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To get that 24 hours would I need to sign up for it? How does this pay as you go option work? Is this cheap or expensive?
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Old 12-26-02, 05:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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http://www.starbucks.com/retail/wireless.asp

https://accounts.hotspot.t-mobile.com/promo...0802/signup.jsp

*** Corrected T-Mobile link to Free 24 hours promo pass.

Yes, you have to open an account before they would give you free promo access. Then you can either add money to that account, or just forget about it.
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Old 12-30-02, 12:03 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you are in NYC, check out:

http://www.nycwireless.net/

That site has links for other regions and websites listing hot spots.
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Old 01-01-03, 02:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I walked around my block today and found 6 AP's!!!

But I couldn't get an IP off any of them. Is it supposed to be automatic or do I have to tell it what IP I want?
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Old 01-01-03, 09:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yes I seem to be having the same problem as you, when I walk down the street I get a 88% signal but I cannot connect. I am using server assigned ip address.
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Old 01-01-03, 02:45 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You need sniffing software. I think Net Stumbler is one. I do not know if you have to sniff out the SSID and change that setting or not. I know for Tmobile you need to set the SSID to tmobile before you can access it. You can sign up for Tmobile while in Starbucks if you want to. I did this but ended up calling there Cust. Support for all of the settings from my Cell Phone. I was surprised-no holding-they new exactly what they were talking about- were cheerful. $20 Prepaid sounded fair to me 120 minutes over 120 days til it expires. pretty fair unless you decide to set up an office in there. It's good if all you want to do is periodically check mail.

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Old 01-01-03, 06:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Do you know any free providers and how a sniffer works?

Thanks.
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Old 03-11-03, 05:03 AM   #10 (permalink)
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We have a McDonalds in town with free internet access. It has a lounge inside with leather chairs and couches. You can access the web through a 802.11b card or an ethernet cable.

Orignally, McDonalds filtered which sites that were available. They removed the filter after about a week. I am able to check my e-mail while waiting for food in the drive through.

The McDonalds is at I-71 and Route 18 in Medina, Ohio, which is a suburb of Cleveland.
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Old 03-11-03, 08:56 AM   #11 (permalink)
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AAAAAAH!!!! I am so confused! How does all this Wireless internet work? Can some one please explain this to me? I really want wireless internet but I have no clue what all these terms are.
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Old 03-11-03, 09:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Klund -

Here is a breakdown on the terms used in this thread (and some others you might see regarding WiFi):

802.11 = WiFi. Like most engineers are wont to do, the folks that created wireless networking gave it a really catchy name...802.11. This is the number of the "standard" document that was created to ensure that everyone creating wireless network gear set their systems up to "speak the same language." Without a standard, you would have situations like Linksys products not being able to speak with Dlink products, etc. Thankfully, some marketing person somewhere realized that very few things should go through life with a number as a name and hence the term WiFi was born.

AP = access point. Think of access points as being the wireless equivalent of the wall jack that you would plug your computer into for network access. APs are typically wired to a network (a local network and/or an Internet connection) and broadcast a signal that can be received by devices that have a WiFi network card.

NIC = network interface card. This is the actual device that connects to your computer and communicates with the network. In a WiFi network, you will have a "wireless NIC" that will connect to the AP.

IP = Internet Protocol, typically used in the context of an "IP address." Every device that connects to the Internet needs to have a unique IP address that identifies it on the network. These addresses look something like 192.168.0.1. Typically, you do not have to worry about knowing what your IP address is because it is assigned automatically by a DHCP server at your company or home Internet service provider. Unfortunately, once you start fooling around with networks you will realize that they are far from foolproof and one of the very first steps in trying to figure out why your network connection might not be working is to figure out what the IP address is on your machine vs. what it needs to be.

SSID = Service Set Identifier. Think of this as being the "name" of the wireless network you are trying to talk to. Just like it is easier to have a meaningful conversation with someone if you know their name, the same is true when your computer is trying to talk to a network.

WEP = Wired Equivalent Privacy. This is a way of encrypting traffic between wireless devices so that other people can't eavesdrop or break into the wireless network. There are varying strengths of encryption, 64-bit, 128-bit, etc. that (in theory) are harder to break the higher the number of bits. The number refers to the length of the key, or password, that is used to encode the traffic. Virtually no network is impenetrable and there are ways for hackers to break WEP. This shouldn't concern most home users however since the majority of people don't bother to secure their networks at all. Why would someone break a sweat trying to get into your network if there are 10 wide open ones right down the road.

Sniffer = a piece of software that "sniffs" at the air and tries to detect the presence of wireless networks. Some people use sniffers in a practice called "War driving" where they roam around in a car or on foot looking for wireless networks. In general, you need to know the SSID and the WEP key of a secure network before you can connect to it. This information is input into the settings of the WiFi network card on your computer. If you do not change the SSID from the default on your AP, and if you do not enable WEP between your AP and your computers, then it is very easy for people that are "war driving" to take advantage of your network...either for the potentially benign purpose of using your internet connection for free or, perhaps, with significantly more nefarious intent.

MAC address = Media Access Control address. Every network device has a unique ID number that is associated with it at the time it is created, just like most people in the US have a unique social security number. The phrase "MAC address filtering" refers to the ability of a network to be secured in a such a fashion where only specified network cards can access its resources. If someone else were to try to access the network they would be unable to until the MAC address of their network card was added to the system by the administrator.

If you have a wireless network at home, the best combination of ease of setup and "reasonably safe" security is to change your SSID from the default, configure your AP so it does not "broadcast" its SSID to sniffers, enable 128-bit WEP, and setup MAC address filtering. The steps to do this vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, but in general are fairly straightforward if you read the manuals and do your research on sites like www.practicallynetworked.com
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Old 03-11-03, 10:52 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I will make a comment about "free" WiFi....

[rant]Just because it's there doesn't mean you should use it.

Now, for people who freely advertise or state clearly that they will allow you to do it, fine. But just because some poor schmuck doesn't know how to lock down his WAP doesn't give anyone the right to use their bandwidth, no matter how little it is. In my opinion (and yes, it is my opinion, you are free to hold others), this would be as if you left your front door unlocked, and someone came in a watched a little TV while you were gone. No, they may not have taken anything, but still it was your property that was violated. Some would say that bandwidth belongs to anyone who can get it, but that guy is paying for it, and unless you are willing to pony up some cash to the guy or he is OK with letting you use it, it's not yours for the taking.

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Old 03-11-03, 01:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Excellent summary jda5id!

For the folks who "see" a network and can't get in, there are many reasons:

1. WEP enabled.
2. MAC filtering.
3. DHCP disabled. (Rare, but sometimes very practical.)
4. DHCP limited.

I use 1, 2 and 4. I have WEP enabled, use MAC filtering and only allow 4 connections to my home network. (My desktop, my wife's desktop, my laptop and my Ax.) Two are hard wired, the laptop is usually connected by wire, but can do wireless and the Ax is wireless only.

I also changed SSID and password and don't broadcast my SSID.

It's not bulletproof, but my neighbor's network is wide open, so I feel relatively safe.

(I also have a home intrusion alarm and a sign out front to that effect and he doesn't so I'm the tougher target both for the network and the TV viewer!)
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The McDonalds is at I-71 and Route 18 in Medina, Ohio, which is a suburb of Cleveland.
Almost ALL of downtown Cleveland has wide open WAPs... intentional or not, they're open. I was able to walk from Huron to east 9th with continual coverage via Superior Ave.
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