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Old 08-23-06, 02:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Stolen Axim

Hey guys love the site. I got an offer from a friend for a basically new Axim for pretty much free (need to pay shipping only from CA to TN). Anyway she aquired this device through a messy divorce. OK she stole it from her cheating husband among other things I assume.

Anyway if I buy it and her husband finds out (I assume it is registered to him, but he doesnt know me) can Dell track me down?

I will use it for wi-fi plus active syncs every few days, should I do it on a computer not on the network?

Thanks for the help, hope I am able to use it my other one is outdated :)
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Old 08-23-06, 02:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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does the charge of receiving stolen goods ring a bell?
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Old 08-23-06, 02:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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When you say "stole" from the husband did she literally STEAL the item or did her lawyer rake him over the coals and she won it fairly through the legal system? I know many divorced people feel the "ex stole certain items from them.

If it literally a stolen PDA, I wouldn't touch it.
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Old 08-23-06, 03:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well in the answer to both question, I dont know.

I assume it is a case of her just taking stuff of his to piss him off much like you hear stories of people selling off their ex's possesions at a garage sale without their consent.

Basically I do not want to do something where I am going to be caught. Does the device report back to dell when connected to a cradle? Or is there no way of tracking a device once it is outside store walls?
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Can Dell track you down? Probably not, but the police can.
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Old 08-23-06, 03:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i'd be wary of anything that has the hint of being stolen. if she took it without his consent, guess what, it's stolen. she can be charged with theft and, as pointed out, you can be charged with receiving stolen goods. bad news all around. getting an axim isn't worth jail time, is it?

even if he never does anything about it, it doesn't make it any less wrong.

what might be worse is he may have gotten it through work. many companies buy handhelds for their employees for work use. If that's the case, i could see the company looking to recover their stolen property, whether it was involved in a messy divorce or not. most companies have a very dim view of people that take property that's not theirs.

very bad juju indeed.
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Old 08-23-06, 03:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Can Dell track you down? Probably not, but the police can.
ok so... Dell cannot track the device if I connect wifi or sync but you are basically saying the husband can track me down and get the police after me? I think I can deal with him so long as Dell cant find the device (if he calls it in as stolen, if you can even do that).
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just seems wrong,...i've got things in my axim that i seriously need, it really is like my 'brain in my pocket' (yoo-hoo PB :) )...i carry it everywhere and i'm just a mom, he could have really important work related information and not be a habitual sync-er kinda guy...

...and,...what if by her taking it, he forgots about a sure deal and loses mega dough which she wil then lose out on her 50%???....what's that saying, cut off your nose to spite your face?


...and as stated above...very bad juju....agreed
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Old 08-23-06, 03:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
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djstrobe -
Congratulations on your first post - although I don't like the subject ...

Dell keeps track of the owner by means of the serialnumber and the servicetag, which can be found in the battery compartment.
So Dell can't track you down without this information - but you can't sell it and can't get any service - of course.

The moral issue sucks, IMO - but you know that yourself.

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Talk about going from being excited to get a deal to feeling guilty LOL. I won't do it now as I was only looking at the situation from my point of view.

A question to Zaniax though, I want to tell her wht the deal is so she wont get in trouble. So you are saying that Dell tracks this info (serial number & Service tag) in like an offline database comprised of sales and registration and not through the internet or though polling?
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Without knowing more I can't say. I know that my current noyfriend will refer to items that were taken from him in the divorce as "lost in the war" and "stolen" sometimes. She took all his camping equipment and sold it even though she never camped a night in her life.

My best friend also went through a divorce and she had some stuff come up missing before and in the divorce. Nothing was ever reported as stolen. I, too, am divorced and there are many items that he took off with, but I just know it was the price of getting rid of the loser. None were ever reported to the police as stolen.

Anway... you will never have to do time over receivinga stolen Axim. At the most, it will be confiscated and you could be out the purchase price. Te chances of that happening? Next to nill.

There really is no way to track the device unless you call Dell up and say I have Axim XXXXXX. Even then, they might not know it was stolen unless the guy that used to own it called it in. If it was lost in a divorce this is extremely unlikely.

the only way they could get you for knowingly taken possession of a stolen item is if you sat in court and said you knew it was stolen... who would do that?
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Old 08-23-06, 03:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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i'm with Annamaria, very bad juju.

But to answer your specific question, to my knowledge, Dell does not poll or otherwise keep track of the devices, each time it's on the net. (wouldn't put it past gates, google, yahoo or any of the other yahoos out there - I sure hope they liked the hot firefighter poster i dl'd last nite)

They would know the original owner and as someone said, getting any warranty service without the original owner transfering the service, would be difficult.

let your conscience be your guide -- and like any family, we'll still say hey, we'll just chide you to do the right thing. welcome aboard.
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djstrobe -
I actually don't know how Dell handles this.

I've read that Dell has refused to service items sold via ebay because the buyer and the owner names didn't match.

The servicetag is used for getting SW updates online from Dell.

You should also know that there is a UUID permanent in the ROM memory.
The UUID can easely be found under the System Information.



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Use it in good health my friend :approve:
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Old 08-23-06, 06:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Get the Ax, the bastard cheated his wife, he deserved to lose his PPC

Probably he is an Aximsite member, so it might be dangerous to speak here :approve:
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