I just wanted to say that I like Benots4's suggestion of a post or tiime limit. Also, one other suggestion might be to limit the number of new political threads over a period of time instead of limiting the time between threads. In other words, only 5 new political threads a week (or something like that).
Maybe just start a "political" sub-category under the waterfountain and let those that enjoy a public political flaming have a blast.
Not more restriction but less, let em go at each other full force and get it out of their systems. If it starts to bleed over into other areas then you start the "stern warnings"
If that sorta thing doesn't blow yer skirt up then you know where to NOT go...
You may want to consider limiting the number of political posts per week one person can make to one so we don't just have a few (or one) people who are on the site constantly monopolizing the one thread every 48 hours rule.
I agree with Stebenators reply. We are all adults, well mostly, and I do not see the harm in displaying points of view and arguing them. I see no threat in these posts. Let them continue as is. What's the harm?
Rogue9, the problem is that many of us enjoy the political discussions much more without the flaming and personal insults. Some people, however, insist on posting personal attacks when they disagree instead of simply discussing their viewpoint. Those people ruin the fun of the discussion for the rest of us. Sort of the one bad apple theory. That is why I think the intent of the new rules makes sense. Although I do agree that there may be better ways to handle it than the 48 hour rule, it is definately a step in the right direction.
I thought posters on the political threads here are overall pretty well-behaved, and I enjoy seeing the different points of view (we should realize that you aren't going to change someone's mind most of the time, though, through views expressed in a post). However, it does seem that there are more posts on those threads than on the technical side of things - and there must be some way to encourage more posts related directly to the Axim.
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but this a thought in progress, definitely under construciton.......
Open discourse and debate are good things. They are imperative in and for a free society. Limiting, the type and even the tone of said exchange focuses the attention to the rule, often fueling the initial passion into all out rage - ultimately producing more vitriole.
Rants. flames, and general incivility lose much of their appeal when ignored. (What I didn’t learn in kindergarten, I learned as the parent of a kindergartner). Not everyone will agree with me (I’m older and probably more liberal than most here, have more disadvantage and challenge initials after my name than professional ones) but I genuinely want to see the other side of issues. If we cannot look and work through words, how can we expect to deal with each other, other than with bombs, guns and hatred.
My vote:
A time limit on threads of current affairs is reasonable
A separate current events thread is also a good idea (at least you can filter it out, if you don’t want to watch the carnage)
And don’t rise to the level of the flamer/ranter. Note your displeasure with the action and then go on.
Sort of like the idea of a yellow card, but somehow it should be community based, not just a moderator thing. this is where my limited brain power gets twisted into knots.....
Good thoughts, Dee-Cee. Just to build from where you left off, maybe if a user sees flaming/inappropriate posts, there should be a place they can go to report them to a moderator or Administrator.
Also, what if we created a whole new forum called current events, instead of a sub-forum of water fountain. That way, it would immediately show up in the new posts link.
Good thoughts, Dee-Cee. Just to build from where you left off, maybe if a user sees flaming/inappropriate posts, there should be a place they can go to report them to a moderator or Administrator. ......
Doug
As an FYI --- you do have a REPORT button under each user's name on let panel -- right next to offline/online status.
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I still think it more appropriate to delete a post than close a thread.
One drive by flaming post and an otherwise lively debate gets canned.
I'd understand if the whole degenerates into a flame war, but with the report button and active mods that can ticket/suspend offenders should be sufficient to deter the regulars.
It is also something to note that perhaps the WF is popular BECAUSE of those threads.. not in spite of them.
The lingering death of the axim line is pretty much written on the wall. Eventually, aximsite will probably/possibly be merged or eliminated in favor of mobilitysite with the future growth of those devices.
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i've been thinking about this today(after hearing about it this mourning)
honestly this 48 hour rule is setting aximsite back, like radimus has pointed out. think about the future here, not the here and now. and imo it is a retarded rule(sorry but it is)
I like the 3 warning rule, a warning, a written warning, then the boot. and you have everything to be able to enforce that rule(with the assumption of man power included). kis(keep it simple), the report button, monitoring, warnings,........
what's wrong with the old way of things? (reminding me of the government and how it does things)
i'm starting a new thread "BEFORE YOU POST a political thread, read this first" (and hopefully it'll be stickied). I don't know the exacts of how it would work, but collectively aximsite users could agree on a topic to talk about in here then collectively start a new thread(with the whole 48 hour rule thing) on whats agreed upon. this way those who want to talk about politics can all agree(before they start disagreeing) on what they would like to talk about, and not have a whole bunch of lone rangers shooting the submit button all at once trying to get their topic ahead of others.
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