JmE

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Originally posted by deftech Yes absolutely, as soon as Dell officially releases a patch, feel free to post the info about it. The reason we can't post the links at this point, is because Dell has not officially released it.....so therefore, it is not supposed to be distributed to any Axim users at this point. But again, as soon as it is released, you'll know about it.

I posted in another thread a link to the Dell forums where a user (or users) wrote that the A04 to A05 patch was listed for a half an hour under the Dell support download menus for the Axim...

Also, the day the patch was posted on the Dell FTP site was also the day that it Dell said it was to be released.

Additionally, the patch appeared on Dell FTP servers all around and stayed on the European server and others throughout this fiasco although it was removed from the US server.

Lastly, many of us learned about this patch the same way we learned about the others, through links on this site.

As an Aximsite user, a former IT person, and as an adult, I personally think not allowing links to legitamate manufacturer's public FTP sites is absurd. It is total over reaction. Dell should police it's own public FTP. Or maybe Aximsite should send it's troops over to Dell and restore order?

If the owner of Aximsite chooses not to allow PB&J to be discussed, so be it. It is his right and I respect that. I also respect and appreciate the latitude of his character that allows me to post my opinion that this decision is ridiculous.

-JmE-

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Here! Here! Well-said, sir JmE!

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cageyjames

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Originally posted by JmE If the owner of Aximsite chooses not to allow PB&J to be discussed, so be it. It is his right and I respect that. I also respect and appreciate the latitude of his character that allows me to post my opinion that this decision is ridiculous.

PB&J is open source so you can share any links you wish.

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Originally posted by cageyjames PB&J is open source so you can share any links you wish.

So, having been given moderator permission, off we go to the much more stimulating and safe links that are allowed here:

http://www.teachervision.com/lesson-...lesson-29.html

ST

Note: I was about to contribute to Aximsite, but in light of the recent restrictions and censorship enacted on various topics, threads, links, etc., I am reconsidering doing so.

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Note: I was about to contribute to Aximsite, but in light of the recent restrictions and censorship enacted on various topics, threads, links, etc., I am reconsidering doing so. [/b]

I agree. Because of the existence of Dell's forums, if there are ANY pulls of posts or links etc. then this entire site is useless.

Chris Leckness get a clue and throw out your stash of ties already.

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Originally posted by deftech We need to verify with Dell that this download is okay to distribute. Aximsite needs and wants to keep in good terms with the Dell Corporation, so we need to be sure that we do not use "loop holes" that Dell may have overlooked to gain access to this file.

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Originally posted by JmE As an Aximsite user, a former IT person, and as an adult, I personally think not allowing links to legitamate manufacturer's public FTP sites is absurd. It is total over reaction. Dell should police it's own public FTP. Or maybe Aximsite should send it's troops over to Dell and restore order? -JmE-

Well said JmE. I find the moderator's statement "Aximsite needs and wants to keep in good terms with the Dell Corporation" particularly interesting and very protective of Papa Dell. Keerist! It was Dells' file on Dell's public server! And, the link wasn't allowed here. That's a "loophole"???

Hmmmm....Is Dell funding Aximsite?

ST

cageyjames

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Originally posted by straittalk Hmmmm....Is Dell funding Aximsite?

Read this post.

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...462#post133462

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straittalk

Thanks for posting this link, Cagey. It may point many other users to what Humba said so well, and to that which encapsulates the concerns about the seemingly over-protective actions that the moderators have taken on Dell's behalf and their self-imposed ineptness.

ST

cageyjames

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Originally posted by straittalk which encapsulates the concerns about the seemingly over-protective actions that the moderators have taken on Dell's behalf and their self-imposed ineptness.

Right...

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JmE

Well, please don't stick to this point too closely:

3. We are not a rougue news site that will run with any rumor or plead "freedom of speech", when questions arise. This site tries to only report the official word from Dell. (since they happen to make the product we are all here for)

Because if you did, we would NOT be allowed to post about IR problems with the Axim, NOT allowed to post that some Axims were being shipped with PXA255 procesors, NOT be allowed to post that WM2003 has slowdown issues, NOT be allowed to post that the A04 -> A05 installer fails on some Axims, etc... because Dell officially denied and buried their heads up their butts on all of those issues. They were not "Offical Word" (the Gospel according to Dell) until they were majorly discussed issues here.

-JmE-

JmE

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Originally posted by cageyjames PB&J is open source so you can share any links you wish.

BTW: You missed the point. The point was that whatever Chris chooses to set as the rules, so be it.


-JmE-

deftech

Well, I don't think the point here is whether or not to discuss problems with Dell or their products. The point here is whether or not to distribute (or provide links) to their software if it has not been officially released to the public. That is a little more touchy of a subject than just discussing something.

A large company like Dell could crush a website like Aximsite if we began to go against their policies (or at least what they ask of us) on Dell's software distribution. Aximsite is always being viewed by Dell employees.

Shortly after the thread went up that contained a link to the Dell Singapore FTP site (which contained an unofficially released copy of the update), we were notified immediately by Dell to please remove the thread. I'm sure that at this same instance, they also notified their Singapore division to remove the file from their FTP.

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JmE

Dell has been in business how long? And they haven't figured out that when you place a file on a pulic server that the public is going to download it? Lil Dell needs to grow up sometime, boys!

If they can't figure that little bit of technology out, I don't have a whole lotta faith in them figuring out the complex stuff.

That poor little Dell kid, he doesn't have a clue. I guess we SHOULD protect him.

-JmE-

cageyjames

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Originally posted by JmE BTW: You missed the point. The point was that whatever Chris chooses to set as the rules, so be it.

No I got what you were saying. Yes Chris decides what goes, but he has already shown that open source is ok (remember his Linux on Axim news item?). I think you are just making a bigger deal about this than it really is.

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