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Old 12-10-05, 08:14 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Welcome to the 12GB club, my friend!
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Old 12-12-05, 02:58 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Crap.

You guys are serious power-data users.

I haven't reached a level where i'm comfortable with mem/storage for my Ax ... not like my home comp where I have ~ 1 terabyte (which isn't that uncommon nowadays).

However, having 12 gigs for your PDA is way out there. That's a serious investment. What exactly are you guys doing that makes 12 gigs something to shoot for?
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Movies and music? That's about all I can think of ...

I'm shooting for 3 GB in the PDA, mainly for that and large amounts of text. Very, VERY large amounts of text. I can use my Zen Xtra for the music - I'm a lot less tolerant of switching out a collection of music than a collection of videos, as I'm a lot more likely to listen to the music for a lot longer ;)
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Old 12-12-05, 09:03 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Bill,

No crap short version: Music, GPS maps, photos, games, eBooks, PowerPoint/Excel/Word files, video, reserved capacity.

Long version:

The CF card will be mostly for music. I don't like to have to rip and encode my CDs twice (once in best quality for the PC, once in lower quality for the PDA). So I encode just once, at best VBR quality which also means low compression. Once CD usually takes at least 70MB and many exceed 100MB that way.

My 6GB MicroDrive is not large enough to hold all the music plus the other stuff that I'd like to have available at all times. So I have to delete CDs to make room for others, regularly. The 8GB CF will decrease the frequency of having to do that.

I do not like to fill a hard drive or memory card close to capacity. I like to have at least 20% of the card's/drive's capacity free for emergencies. (Actually, with hard drives I try to keep it closer to 30% in order to have room for defragmentation.) I also plan to leave 2GB out of 8 free for the CDs I am going to buy during the next year or so.

A lot of GPS users like to have the maps of all of the US / Europe on their card. That would be 2GB per. I need maps of states in the US as well as Europe but those places are rather static and fit into 1GB with room for updates.

As with MP3s I am too lazy/busy to keep hi-res and low-res versions of my photos around. So there's just hi-res at about 2 megs a pic. I currently carry under 400 megs with me. I do not view them all on the PDA. Having them available to copy them of the card onto a friends/relatives PC for sharing or printing is nice, though. I upgraded the pixel count on my dig. camera so I'll need more storage for archived images in the future.

Adventure games: Gilbert Goodmate and Atlantis Redux together use over 300 megs. Storage requirements for new games are going to be increasing.

My work files, eBooks, etc. are on the SD card. I am considering moving the GPS maps here, too, to create more room for music on the CF card. The card will have its remaining space taken up my movies when I travel, and have 2 to 2.5 GB free at other times. Which permits me to use the other 6.5GB worth of SD cards in digital cameras, second PDA, card reader sticks.

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You have a TB worth of HD space? I have only 650GB and feel totally inadequate now ;).

Seriously, a TB, that's what I want: 4 256GB (or larger) low noise low heat high speed hard drives in 2 RAID 0 arrays on 2 separate RAID controllers. Is that the config you are running it in? Whatever: nice!
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Old 12-13-05, 03:57 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from Ogopogo.

You know, this is exactly what I can imagine doing for my Ax. It's just that i'm still new to the PPC game and it will take awhile to get into the groove.

I'm up to a TB of storage for my home comp almost because whenever I see a good deal on a hard drive it's too hard to pass it up (where's that embarrassed smiley?)I fully expect to buy another drive this Boxing Day sale season. Big here in Canada like Black Friday in the States.

Honestly, I haven't even explored RAID options ... I just have a TB on 5 hard drives. 3 of them in aluminum enclosures for data backup/storage. 2 on the main comp. I've ripped a good portion of my cds into VBR mp3 although i'm considering a lossless format like Flac etc. I'm also getting heavy into video editing as I have 3 kids and I take a crapload of vid and pics. It will get worse as i'm considering going RAW and that will take up even more space.

I still can't get myself to drop coin on a 8gb CF though. I'm still thinking of pulling the trigger on a 2gb SD.
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You can never have too much storage. (Or was that enough?) RAW format is not sth. I have even tried yet on the x50v so I am not sure if there are any PPC viewers for this format.

Your mention of (truly?) lossless compression of sound signals - Flac? - is interesting. I did not think it is possible. Anyway, I have not heard of that format and will google.

The RiData 150x 2GB is a very nice SD card. Price should be around USD 120. I have read good things about the 150x 2GB A-Data. It may be up to $10 cheaper than the RiData. Be warned that the card sticker is Pink.
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Old 12-14-05, 02:15 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by EngrPaul
Welcome to the 12GB club, my friend!
Thanks, I am looking forward to becoming a member of this club. I do not qualify just yet, though. Zipzoomfly took their sweet time to "process" and "pack" my order before they would "ship" it to me. It is now scheduled for delivery this Friday. Well, they're cheap so perhaps I have no reason to complain.
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Old 12-14-05, 05:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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http://flac.sourceforge.net/ for FLAC
http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ for Ape

There are probably others but these two come to mind.

Here's an interesting page about .ape versus WMA

http://www.ntu.edu.sg/home5/pg030535...WMA_vs_APE.htm

In any case, i'm still thinking about a larger sd card. Unfortunately, i'm in Canada so ordering from the States is a little trickier. I can get a 2gb highspeed SD card (Soultek - division of Soltek the word around the campfire is suggesting) for ~ 140 CAD and the Corsair 2gb highspeed SD card for ~ 176 CAD. Not bad prices but I don't need them right away so i'll wait a bit and prices should drop some.

Maybe by then the larger capacity CF cards will be here. 32 gb of sweet storage looks good!

As for shooting in RAW - the larger capacity SD card is basically for the DSLR. If and when my x51v supports viewing RAW files i'll cross that bridge when I get there. AFAIK, the Axim does not support view RAW files although there may be some program out there, I don't know.
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Thanks for the links, very interesting. I have bookmarked them so I can read more when I have the time.
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The tracking on the web site lagged well behind reality. The card arrived today two days ahead of web-projected schedule.

Alright, so now I am a 12GB nuts club member. I am putting the card through its paces with synthetic benchmarks and so far I am not delighted. I want fast write rates in a card reader. This card writes faster than the MicroDrive but slower than most (all?) of my other cards... I hope that it will perform better in real world tests.
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I 'only' have 8gb on my X51v (4gb each SD and CF) and use them for maps, music and reference books. I downloaded a free encyclopedia the other day that was close to 1gb in size - the time is coming when everyone will need 12gb!!!!

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Crap.

You guys are serious power-data users.

I haven't reached a level where i'm comfortable with mem/storage for my Ax ... not like my home comp where I have ~ 1 terabyte (which isn't that uncommon nowadays).

However, having 12 gigs for your PDA is way out there. That's a serious investment. What exactly are you guys doing that makes 12 gigs something to shoot for?
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Old 12-16-05, 02:23 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm limping along with 6gb, would like to have an 8gb cf and 4gb sd! Then I'd be limping along with only 12gb ;)
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90 MB BIS- System apps to avoid delayed card startup on return from standby, and games that load lots of small BMP files (etc.), which would otherwise occupy much more memory on a flash card at FAT32. PIE Cache. Ebooks.

8 GB CF Card (permanent)- Non-system apps and most games, including regional and national(seamless) GPS maps. A complete collection of my WMA favorites for shuffling. Avantgo Cache. Favorite pictures.

4 GB SD Cards (swap as necessary)- Movie and Concert DivX at VGA. Typically 1GB for each, it's DVD video and audio quality. Complete WMA albums for times I'd rather hear the full album instead of shuffling favorites.

I currently have 600 MB free on my CF card, which will probably fill up slowly as I find more music favorites to add in the future.

I don't feel like I have a ceiling on memory by having this setup, because I have several additional SD cards. I burn appx. 4 DivX movies to a DVD+R, and upload them to SD cards as desired.
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If MEMS (Micro Electro Mechanical System) is OK, there's an 8GB card for about $200.
http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_...terid=14192064
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Here is my take on the 4GB Transcend I have that I posted a few months ago.

I ran SiSandra benckmards on it compared to a 2GB Lexar 80x that was nearly the same cost as the Transcend 4GB.

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showt...ight=Transcend

My card reader at the time of the first test was only a USB 1.1. I upgraded to a Hi-Speed USB 2.0 and reran the SiSandra benchmark. Here is that post.

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showp...1&postcount=13

The difference between the Lexar 80x and Transcend 80x were nearly identical again; only higher with the new reader.

I have absolutely no problems using The Core Pocket Movie Player to play Divx-encodes with AC3 audio ( encoded on the PC @ 720x404 @ 2000 kb/s ) on my x50v stored on the 4GB Transcend CF.

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