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Old 03-27-05, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Microdrive running continuously

I have the 2.2 GB Magicstor+ microdrive. It seems to be running most of the time. It is running even when not accessing data. Have others noted this? Can it manually be stopped? Thanks for the help.
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do you have a hardware STOP program like me???



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Nope, no hardware stop programs. What do you use?
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google it........


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Simplest solution: take the card out when it's not in use.
And how do you know that it's running continuously?
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Originally Posted by star882
Simplest solution: take the card out when it's not in use.
And how do you know that it's running continuously?
I can tell that it's running continuously by putting it to my ear and hearing it whirring. It also builds up a fair amount of heat. I have taken it ou for now, but I prefer to keep it in place for occasional downtime that allows me to listen to MP3s.

Aximbigfan: I tried a google of "hardware stop programs" and various versions of that, as well as the software listed in your "view my PDA" without success. Can you be more specific? Thanks.
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in other non-geek words a program that can cut the power to and external device.............


and its not in my pda becuse i dont use it any more............


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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
in other non-geek words a program that can cut the power to and external device.............


and its not in my pda becuse i dont use it any more............


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And it's called.......?
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I can tell that it's running continuously by putting it to my ear and hearing it whirring. It also builds up a fair amount of heat. I have taken it ou for now, but I prefer to keep it in place for occasional downtime that allows me to listen to MP3s.
The sound is probably the card's Vpp power supply in idle mode. Some digital power supplies make audible noise when certain conditions are met. (I have a lab power supply that makes unusual noises at power up and power down, and a few cheap PC power supplies make an annoying squeal when lightly loaded.)
Maybe by design, the card is just idle and the sound is just the Vpp power supply turning on and off very fast (known to digital power supply engineers as discontinous mode) in order to keep the capacitors charged so the card is ready for a write operation.
And as for what actually produces the sound, an inductor inside the card could be applying a force to the metal shell through magnetism (very little, but enough to make a sound) and creating a crude speaker, or one of the capacitors is acting as a crude speaker. (I have noticed that happen with a ceramic capacitor when I first started learning about electronics.)
It's a side effect, not a real bug. However, all the memory cards I've used are totally silent. It all boils down to variation. One card could have the inductor at just the right distance from the shell for it to act as a speaker, while another may have the inductor touching the shell so it doesn't work as a speaker. I guess that so far, I'm just lucky.

P.S. Once, I have noticed that a T5 in an OfficeMax store squeals loud enough that I noticed it right as I walked past it (a way to attract attention?!), while the T5 my friend Alayna has is totally silent.
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Originally Posted by aximbigfan

do you have a hardware STOP program like me???


and its not in my pda becuse i dont use it any more............


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OK. So do you have it or not? Damn I hate the "search for it" responders".

Anyway, I have that same card and it's not 100% compatible with the PPC. I've had it seemingly lock itself on and drain my battery when in my pocket. The only reason I noticed it was the heat. I've had issues with the card being recognized after a soft reset also. My advice would be to try and find a better CF card.
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OK. So do you have it or not? Damn I hate the "search for it" responders".
Not terribly useful, eh?
But what Magicstor has to say isn't all that much more useful:
Why does Magicstor spin non-stop, and then stop completely on my PDA?
1.Please ensure your PDA's operating system is compatible with Magicstor by consulting the list, or check if additional drivers are needed to run Magicstor on your PDA.
2. Does your PDA have enough power left? Please try to use Magicstor with your PDA while it's connected to a power source or in its docking station.
"Non-stop, and then stop?" I particularly like the part about using it with external power. That's what a desk-top is for, it's not what we bought PDA's for.

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Originally Posted by star882
The sound is probably the card's Vpp power supply in idle mode. Some digital power supplies make audible noise when certain conditions are met. (I have a lab power supply that makes unusual noises at power up and power down, and a few cheap PC power supplies make an annoying squeal when lightly loaded.)
Maybe by design, the card is just idle and the sound is just the Vpp power supply turning on and off very fast (known to digital power supply engineers as discontinous mode) in order to keep the capacitors charged so the card is ready for a write operation.
And as for what actually produces the sound, an inductor inside the card could be applying a force to the metal shell through magnetism (very little, but enough to make a sound) and creating a crude speaker, or one of the capacitors is acting as a crude speaker. (I have noticed that happen with a ceramic capacitor when I first started learning about electronics.)
It's a side effect, not a real bug. However, all the memory cards I've used are totally silent. It all boils down to variation. One card could have the inductor at just the right distance from the shell for it to act as a speaker, while another may have the inductor touching the shell so it doesn't work as a speaker. I guess that so far, I'm just lucky.
It's more likely to the disks spinning. I think you'll find that is more noisy than the power supply.
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Originally Posted by GaryD
Not terribly useful, eh?
But what Magicstor has to say isn't all that much more useful:
Why does Magicstor spin non-stop, and then stop completely on my PDA?
1.Please ensure your PDA's operating system is compatible with Magicstor by consulting the list, or check if additional drivers are needed to run Magicstor on your PDA.
2. Does your PDA have enough power left? Please try to use Magicstor with your PDA while it's connected to a power source or in its docking station.
"Non-stop, and then stop?" I particularly like the part about using it with external power. That's what a desk-top is for, it's not what we bought PDA's for.

-Gary
What a pickle these microdrives can create. I bought it because of the great price and the fact others were having success. Obviously, it's important to not just trust the lucky--sometimes you have to believe the website. They do not show the Axim as a compatible device. I'm hoping they will provide the necessary drivers to fix this problem.
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I have this same drive on my x50v and can't hear it at all but when accessing it a lot it does get hot.
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I have this same drive. I too wondered about the continuous whirring. I just discovered this morning that if I activate beta player and play one of my movie files on the card that the drive will stop whirring upon exiting the program. This may work for any file which is opened and closed on the drive hence telling the drive that it is done for the moment. Try this out and see if you have the same results.
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