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Old 12-03-04, 09:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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DLL Files that are movable

I was able to move all .dll files, except those that go with visual basic programs and the visual basic .dlls.

I moved .dll files with no problems for:

MS Reader
Pocket Everquest: War on Faydwer
ESoft's Arcade Challenge
Resco Explorer
Sprite Backup
Icom's 5 Dice Corsair
Handmark's 4.0 Student
Resco Guardians

These were moved by others:
Pocket Informant
Agenda Fusion
PocketWinc
Clearvue doc viewer
Microsoft .net compact framework (for 2002 users)
Bzip2ce.dll Inkspot CE 1.4
Ebooksupport.dll Adobe reader for PPC 2.0
eXperience.dll Digital Expedition experience
gdbmce.dll inkspot CE 1.4
hpcsple.dll Phatware HPC Spell
hpcsplui.dll Phatware HPC Spell
lpnewmenu.dll Iliumsoft Listpro 4.0
newpadmenu.dll Phatware Phatpad
NewPMAP.dll JKRM Pocket Mindmap
Phcedraw.dll Phatware Phatpad
Phjpeg.dll Phatware Phatpad
PQNewMenu.dll Landware pocket quicken
SkypeDialer.dll Syple
Notesmenu.dll Phatware Phatnotes
Pwnotesapi.dll Phatware Phatnotes
Penmacro.dll Phatware Calligrapher (Not fully tested)
Macrousr.dll Phatware Calligrapher (Not fully tested)
Sprint PCS Connection Manager 2003 w/ 2003SE Patch (used by SprintPCS CF2031 CF CDPD Modem):
fw1x.dll
mcapi.dll
YFComm.dll

Resco Explorer 2003 (from \Windows and \Windows\Shared):
RFileShell03.dll*
RCrypting.dll**
RViewer.exe+
RZipShell.dll++
* Change "HKLM\Software\Apps\Shared\" KEY name (not value!)
** Change "HKLM\Software\Resco\Explorer\Modules\Crypting\Lib r ary"
+ Change "HKLM\Software\Resco\Explorer\Modules\Viewer\Libra r y"
++ Change "HKLM\Software\Resco\Explorer\Modules\ZIPShell\Lib r ary"

Calligrapher v7.4:
MacroUsr.dll
PenMacro.dll
CgrImages.dll

Certicomm MovianVPN:
defaultmem.dll
libsb.dll
mVPNser.dll



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Old 12-03-04, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for listing these movable .dlls!
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No problem. I believe wooch has some others to list, from what he said in a previous thread. :) I got to save a pretty good amount of memory that way. Too bad the Visual Basic files can't be moved.
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Old 12-03-04, 10:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Raynne413
No problem. I believe wooch has some others to list, from what he said in a previous thread. :) I got to save a pretty good amount of memory that way. Too bad the Visual Basic files can't be moved.
We'll see what we can do about this.
Any particular app. that we can try and test with ?
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Here is one of my favorite visual basic apps. It is an astronomy program. And here is a link to the 2003 visual basic runtimes. It is a .cab file.
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Old 12-04-04, 01:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't use the DinarSoft app, don't even know the name of what you're talking about. But I have begun moving DLL files to the file store in my X5, using the Mad Programmer's SystemPath applet along with his gsGetFile.dll. In cases where CabInstl (or more recently my modified registry to have CAB files open a proper installation location dialogue) won't put the files into a card or file store I just move them manually, after a backup of course, and test.

Of the eVB DLLs the only one which seems to work is pvbform2.dll, which has been happy there for a week or so and allows full use of several eVB apps.

I also keep these there:

msmsgs8.dll
NETWLAN.DLL
PrintDC.dll
RFileShell03.dll
NICTT.EXE

The NETWLAN relates to my Symbol drivers, the NICTT.EXE as well, the PrintDC is from FieldSoftware's stuff, and Resco and MSNMessenger things are obvious. Some others I've tested have either failed to allow program functions or they've 'pretended' to be moved.... then when I check back they're still in Windows, just a copy got made in the new location.

Here's a little tutorial I threw together:
http://www.vancouverpocketpc.com/CAB...ion_tweak.html
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This will free up more main memory, won't it?
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Old 12-04-04, 02:12 AM   #8 (permalink)
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In my case it's freed up 1.57MB of RAM, so far. I'm pretty careful about installing things like Reader and Messenger updates to an SD card, and Sprite lives in the file store except for a couple of files. The Pocket IE Macromedia Flash6 plugin is also installed to the file store, and a host of other junk. No use clogging RAM with any more than strictly necessary, like Today plugins, PIM databases, and other stuff which just won't function anywhere else. Still, I have only 42MB free after soft resets. Got to figure some ways to dump out even more, as this X5 is very memory-leaky under WM2003 compared to before the upgrade.
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Old 12-04-04, 06:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Raynne413
I was able to move all .dll files, except those that go with visual basic programs and the visual basic .dlls.

I moved .dll files with no problems for:

MS Reader
MS Reader Activation
Pocket Everquest: War on Faydwer
ESoft's Arcade Challenge
Resco Explorer
Sprite Backup
Icom's 5 Dice Corsair
Handmark's 4.0 Student
We'll add the two biggest ones (lots of memory savings if you move any of them)

PocketInformant
AgendFusion
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Originally Posted by Don't Panic!
This will free up more main memory, won't it?
Defiantly (if you have something to be moved).
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Originally Posted by Gerard Samija
Of the eVB DLLs the only one which seems to work is pvbform2.dll, which has been happy there for a week or so and allows full use of several eVB apps.
I actually tried moving the evb files one at a time, and my programs would not work until I moved ALL of them back to main memory. :)
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Old 12-04-04, 01:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for starting the threadRaynne! :)

So far, Pocket Controller Pro will not work when its DLL files are moved to SD Card. Looks like its pretty picky ;) I moved its dll files back & it wrks fine.

So far, this is the only app that I've had an issue with.

I saved about 2.7 MB by moving dlls to SD. Thanks DinarSoft :approve: Will list any others that bark after being moved :)

Edit: Add ZenoKeyboard to the list. I'm not able to use it. I moved the dll file back to MM, and it still won't stick as my input choice. Now, I did delete the registry files via SKTools, but I did back them up. My hunch is that once I restore the deleted registry entry, it should work again.

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Originally Posted by Gerard Samija
I don't use the DinarSoft app, don't even know the name of what you're talking about. But I have begun moving DLL files to the file store in my X5, using the Mad Programmer's SystemPath applet along with his gsGetFile.dll. In cases where CabInstl (or more recently my modified registry to have CAB files open a proper installation location dialogue) won't put the files into a card or file store I just move them manually, after a backup of course, and test.

Of the eVB DLLs the only one which seems to work is pvbform2.dll, which has been happy there for a week or so and allows full use of several eVB apps.

I also keep these there:

msmsgs8.dll
NETWLAN.DLL
PrintDC.dll
RFileShell03.dll
NICTT.EXE

The NETWLAN relates to my Symbol drivers, the NICTT.EXE as well, the PrintDC is from FieldSoftware's stuff, and Resco and MSNMessenger things are obvious. Some others I've tested have either failed to allow program functions or they've 'pretended' to be moved.... then when I check back they're still in Windows, just a copy got made in the new location.

Here's a little tutorial I threw together:
http://www.vancouverpocketpc.com/CAB...ion_tweak.html
This looks like a nice tweak and would be great if it was part of MemMaid.
DinarSoft, could you please add this to MemMaid as I don't like to miss up with the registry myself. It's always good to have everything in the same place.
Thanks
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Originally Posted by hebead
This looks like a nice tweak and would be great if it was part of MemMaid.
DinarSoft, could you please add this to MemMaid as I don't like to miss up with the registry myself. It's always good to have everything in the same place.
Thanks
What do you want to add to MemMaid?
MemMaid is able already to move DLLs and make the necessary changes for them to work.
Make sure you have MemMaid 1.4 as this feature is one of the new features in this update.
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Ooops. One update. The MS Reader Activation had to be moved back. And it is over 200 kb.
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