TUTORIAL: Playing Flash Video (FLV) files on the Pocket PC - is it possible?

Menneisyys · 07-11-06, 05:43 AM

I always receive questions regarding whether it’s possible to play Adobe/Macromedia Flash Video (FLV) files on the Pocket PC. Therefore, I’ve investigated the question of playing these files.

What are Flash videos?

To put it simply, there are two kinds of Flash-based videos: traditional Flash videos (also having the .swf extension) and enhanced videos having the .flv extension. The former isn’t really suited for Web-based distribution (it, for example, doesn’t support server-supported location change without fetching the entire clip first). The latter is almost exclusively used by large media distribution sites like Google Video or YouTube because of its technical superiority.

The Pocket PC and Flash videos

While .swf video files are played by almost all Pocket PC-based SWF players as can also be see for example in the article Playing Flash Content on the Pocket PC, playing the latter files on the Pocket PC is a lot more problematic.

Much as some people say the latest (version 7) Macromedia Player for Pocket PC, this will not help with the majority of the “production” Flash videos out there. Most of the videos (for example, the Google Video ones; the YouTube videos are said to be Flash 8+-only) are playable neither from remote locations nor from the local file system.

Note that NetFront 3.2/3.3 isn’t able to play these videos either as can be seen in this screenshot. Renaming them to SWF doesn’t help either – as is the case with the Adobe plug-in and PIE/IEM.

(For testing purposes, I’ve visited the Google Video archives (for example, this Shakira - Hips Don't Lie spoof video).)

Convert to be able to play!

You can, however, convert these files to a format digestible by , say, TCPMP, the best Pocket PC-based multimedia player. To do this, download for example Total Video Converter. Download, install and start it; drop the input FLV file in the “Task list” list (it’s in the upper left region), choose MPEG4 Video in the Mobile group and click the Convert Now button; the conversion will start. The output file will be created in the C:\Program Files\Total Video Converter\Converted directory. Note that you’ll also need the AAC codec for the sound of these files to be played; please read this thread on getting and installing it. If you don't want to install it, go for another output format.

Alternatively, you may want to use the free (!) Mencoder as is described here.

Note that some people also recommend the free Super by eRightSoft. Some other people, however, say it's causing synchronization problems.

Finally, you may also want to give a try to the commercial Replay Converter by applian technologies. The homepage of the developer is also worth checking out because they are also offering Replay A/V, which can also help in downloading FLV files (in addition to, say, YouTube, Google Video etc. videos) directly off the Web, in case you don't want to manually look for videos in the browser cache.

Also note that you’ll want to read Playing Flash Content on the Pocket PC on the secrets of acquiring FLV files if they are residing on a Web server like Google Video (if you don't want to go for the above-linked Replay A/V).

Also note that the quality of the resulting video file will be really inferior to that of the source.

Other discussions of this question

AximSite

FlashForum.de

Recommended generic article on Flash & PPC

Playing Flash Content on the Pocket PC

ilovewasabi · 07-12-06, 03:21 AM

I actually tried this out 2 days ago. I downloaded a vid off youtube using my firefox extension, saved it as a .flv file, converted it to avi using total video convertor, uploaded to my pda and opened it with TCPMP. The only bad thing was the water mark by total video convertor. Nice tutorial. I'll come back here if i have encoding issues.

Menneisyys · 07-12-06, 03:27 AM

Glad to hear it worked :)

ilovewasabi · 07-12-06, 04:11 AM

Oh yeah, there's this program called SUPER by eRightSoft which does what TVP does. It's free, and (I think) it's better than total video convertor(which is a 15 day trial). I can't remember the link, but if you google it, you should be able to find it.

Menneisyys · 07-12-06, 04:14 AM

Thanks for the tip; I'll test it some time. The link is: http://www.erightsoft.net/Superdc.html

legomanx51v · 07-16-06, 04:27 PM

keepvid is usefull for downloading embedded flash videos. and peekvid has plently of flash videos to see.
if you want ot download a flash video from peekvid you have to open it, then click on the video to go to the page where itwas embeded then download using keepvid.

piratefsm · 07-28-06, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by ilovewasabi

Oh yeah, there's this program called SUPER by eRightSoft which does what TVP does. It's free, and (I think) it's better than total video convertor(which is a 15 day trial). I can't remember the link, but if you google it, you should be able to find it.

Or you can use Mencoder. www.mplayerhq.hu.

I use a script where I put enter the file name and output name. it play wonderfully on my axim X5.

mencoder -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=224 -ffourcc divx -vf scale=320:240 -oac mp3lame -af resample=22050:0:0 Input.flv -o output.avi

Change the Input.flv to whatever the file name is, and the output.avi to whatever name you want ".avi" hope this helps. If you know how to script variables in windows, let me know. I can do it in linux but not too sure how to do it in windows. KTHXBAI

Menneisyys · 10-03-06, 06:20 AM

Article greatly updated with a lot of additional, third-party utility links.

bigbop · 10-03-06, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Menneisyys

Thanks for the tip; I'll test it some time. The link is: http://www.erightsoft.net/Superdc.html

Unfortunately, there is no true download link for this application - just a bunch of Google ads. i think their website is screwed up.

Menneisyys · 10-24-06, 03:06 AM

UPDATE (10/24/2006): there is a brand new, free service here allowing for online FLI -> MP4 / 3GP conversions, which, then, can be played with both TCPMP and CorePlayer. Please also see the comments section in here for more info.

I also recommend the following discussions of this article: AximSite; PPCT. I've also elaborated on whether alternate Pocket PC browsers are able to play YouTube videos here. A worthy PPCT discussion of the latter article can be found here.

Menneisyys · 04-02-07, 11:47 AM

UPDATE (04/02/2007):

the brand new, 8.65 version of the great Windows Mobile Web browser Opera Mobile is able to directly play back YouTube videos (if you do install the standard, free (!) Macromedia (Adobe) Flash 7 plug-in in addition to Opera Mobile). See "YouTube support?" row in the comparison chart of my forthcoming Windows Mobile Web Browsing Bible for some real screenshots. Also note that I've posted screenshots of the latest alternative Web browsers (including, unfortunately, even PIE in WM6) NOT being compatible with YouTube. Do check the screenshots out - and remember: I'll publish the Windows Mobile Web Browsing Bible really soon!
Another great piece of news: YouTube Mobile is slated to launch in May / June as is stated at engadget. Also see this PPCT thread.
There is another online converter service to convert videos online without having to have access to a desktop computer (which is a very bad problem with the ORB-based approach), making watching YouTube videos comparatively easy (albeit not as good as with Opera Mobile 8.65 or the forthcoming, above-mentioned YouTube Mobile). Also see this thread for a complete explanation of the process.

**ksong12** · 04-03-07, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by bigbop

Unfortunately, there is no true download link for this application - just a bunch of Google ads. i think their website is screwed up.

No there is, just look carefully.

I believe that the links are the word Download, and the word SUPER.

thevery · 05-29-07, 07:35 AM

Just released TCPMP Plugin for Flash Video on PPC 0.1:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=196939