How to use bluetooth with ppc and laptop plus connecting to wiredlan to other pc desk - Page 2

Howard2k · 07-02-04, 05:30 PM

Nope - keep it simple...

Find the PC that is connected to the ISP. Let's call this PCA. Enable ICS on PCA on the connection that is facing the ISP.

Confirm that it works.

The second PC (PCB) should get an IP address from the first PC. Check that this is working.

If it is - then PCB is the one that has the BT right?

insi · 07-02-04, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Howard2k
If it is - then PCB is the one that has the BT right?

Yup.

PC A connect to ISP and enable ICS.
PC B connecting to PCA and be able to share files and internet.

The problem is PC A the one that connecting to bluetooth.
or should I test using PC B to connect to bluetooth?

another question:
on my pda it mentioned default gateway not the same ip with my PCA that is 192.168.0.1 but DNS server is 192.168.0.1.
Do you know how to change default gateway on my pda (Dell Axim X30) or general pda?

Howard2k · 07-03-04, 09:40 AM

Oh ok - I see. So in that case you'll have put both on PCA and bridge them. But I'mk not sure that you can actually create a bridge to include the BT device. I believe it's pretty much ethernet (or wifi) only. But on PCA, select the two non-Internet facing connections (the BT and LAN) and try to bridge those.

The IP Address of the PDA will be assigned by the PC (whichever one you put the BT on). Don't manually change the settings.

insi · 07-04-04, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Howard2k
Oh ok - I see. So in that case you'll have put both on PCA and bridge them. But I'mk not sure that you can actually create a bridge to include the BT device. I believe it's pretty much ethernet (or wifi) only. But on PCA, select the two non-Internet facing connections (the BT and LAN) and try to bridge those.

The IP Address of the PDA will be assigned by the PC (whichever one you put the BT on). Don't manually change the settings.

I tried this over the weekend using bridge but it still only allow to share/transfer files via bluetooth but not ICS.

I will tray again using this setup:
1. PC A connecting to ISP
2. Share via wired LAN to PC B
3. IF sharing ICS and files succesfull, I installed bluetooth in PC B and hopefully there is an option to choose to share the PC B LAN to BT

Do you think all of the above easier?

I will check again at home.
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I am a bit confuse how the PC A give the IP address automatically to the PDA.
I thought normally the default gateway on my pda will follow the IP of my PC A who is the one that assigned it but it seems it is different IP.

Anyway I will check with the other setup later.

Thanks for your time Howard.

insi · 07-06-04, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Howard2k

Howard,

Still doesn't work.

1. PC A only connecting to ISP. (PC A ip=192.168.0.1)
2. Shared ICS and files successfully with PC B. PC B lan property is automatic. (I also tried to specify the ip to 192.168.0.99 and still provide the same result ie working succesfully)
3. In PC B, LAN property, there is NO option to turn on ICS.
4. Then I installed my bluetooth on PC B.
5. On PC B LAN property then there is an option to ICS with bluetooth or other LAN but once I choose bluetooth to share then it mentioned the IP setup as automatic so cannot use this. So I setup my IP on PC B manually to 192.168.0.99 but when I activated ICS, warning message said it will make the IP address 192.168.0.1.

I pressed cancel.

So there you go, it seems still doesn't work.

I haven't tried to bridge this in PC B and I think there is no option to bridge it but I will check again later.

Phiewss...a lot of testing to do hehe...

insi · 07-06-04, 10:36 PM

oh yeah..

I also tested with PC B and change ip to 192.168.1.99 and gateway to 192.168.0.1 but it even worse because I cannot even share file or connecting to PC A.

Howard2k · 07-07-04, 11:10 PM

there are a few issues that I can see...

You can't have two 192.168.0.x subnets. So if you enable ICS on both subnets you're running two with the same overlapping scheme. 192.168.0.anything is only allowed on one "piece of cable". So in this case, it is the connection between PC A and PC B.

Are they both XP? If PC B is XP I'm pretty sure you override the default ICS network.

What you want is:

Internet ---> PCA <------> PCB <-----> BT Device.

The segment between PCA and PCB will be 192.168.0.x so the segment between the PCB and the BT device needs to be 192.168.somethingexcept0.x

When you enabled ICS however - the PCB will set the BT network to be 192.168.0.x. There is a registry hack you can try.

Go Here and look for the registry keys that it mentions.

It's VERY IMPORTANT not to change any other keys. The document is an old document so:
1. Locate the referenced registry keys.
2. If they don't exist, close registry editor and post back here :)
3. If they do exist, make a note of the values as they are today, then change them. I would suggest using 192.168.10.1,255.255.255.0 and 192.168.10.2

If in doubt, take a break, re-read the document and try again.

What we want is:

PCA to have a 192.168.0.1 address facing PCB. PCB will get a 192.168.0.x address facing back to PCA. PCB will have the Internet address of the BT interface overridden to 192.168.10.1 and will assign an address of 192.168.10.2 to the first BT device.

I know - confusing. Just take some time.

Howard2k · 07-07-04, 11:11 PM

One more thing. Just remember that you assign the IP address to the Interface, not the PC. PCA has two addresses (one facing the Internet and one facing PCB) and PCB has two addresses, one facing PCA and one facing the BT network.

insi · 07-08-04, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Howard2k
One more thing. Just remember that you assign the IP address to the Interface, not the PC. PCA has two addresses (one facing the Internet and one facing PCB) and PCB has two addresses, one facing PCA and one facing the BT network.

Sorry Howard, I am a bit confuse.

What do you mean by "assign IP address to the Interface, not the PC"? and how to do that?

I also confuse how do you make PC B with two ip address one 192.168.0.x and 192.168.10.1 ( I guess from the hack registry key?)

Oh yeah..I am using Window XP Prof for both PC.

In my PC at work (Windows 2000) there is no ICSharing on the registry Hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\servic es

I will check again at my home PC.

Thanks man.

insi · 07-08-04, 01:41 AM

gee...confusing for me to read the documentation :rolling:

hopefully I am understand more at home.

I already confuse for no 2 and 3 from the microsoft guide start value and stop value hehe...

I am exited to start again hehe...hopefully it works

insi · 07-08-04, 05:22 AM

Howard,

Okay, I open the registry editor and the icssharing is doesn't exist in my home xp PC.

What should I do?

07-12-04, 06:41 PM

BUY A ROUTER

insi · 07-12-04, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Host_Killer
BUY A ROUTER

Yeah...but not going to there yet.

I am waiting to get the wifi/router/cable/adsl/firewall combine with 108mbps but it is not coming yet to Australia.

In her different a lot compare to your place ;)

Thanks for your advice.

Howard2k · 07-12-04, 07:31 PM

I have the 108Mb/s router. Not worth waiting for :)

Was ICS enabled when you looked in the registry?

07-12-04, 07:35 PM

If your on dial up you can use the router's software to keep connection live 24/7