New Hp Netbook 1000

11-20-08, 11:14 AM

Hello:

Has anyone else looked at the new HP Netbook 1000 and done any comparisons to the others and to the 2133? Here's some sources for further info...FWIW.

HP Mini 1000 compared to the MiniNote 2133 | HP Mini 1000 and MiniNote User

HP 2133 Mini-Note and HP Mini 1000 Guide

HP® Official Store — Buy an HP Mini 1000 series notebook PC from HP

12-02-08, 09:47 PM

Hi,

Just got my Mini l000 yesterday and have installed the 2GB memory stick in it. I've also taken delivery of a Samsung Spinpoint 120GB5400rpm w/8GB buffer HS122JC Pata zif drive. Am waiting for an Addonics Jupiter 1/8" housing kit to run the 120G drive like a USB external drive and plan to use Acronis Migrate Easy to copy off the 60GB drive to the new drive. The housing manufacturer says the unit is working with Toshiba 1/8" Zif drives like the one in the Mini. I hope that I'm correct in assuming that the zif plug on the Toshiba and the Samsung are pin compatable? Am I on the right track er what?

Thanks

aximbigfan · 12-03-08, 12:10 AM

The two hdds _should_ have the same pins, yes. Assuming both drives are 1/8". Still nto a fan of the "hip" "new" trackpad design though :/

Chris

12-03-08, 06:37 AM

Thanks for the reply aximbigfan. As to the new design, I'd rather have had the opportunity to keep the 2133 housing material but am finding this new case size and design (i like).

FrinkTL · 12-16-08, 10:54 AM

I have just acquired the Mini-Note 2133 (Model KX870AT), the one with Vista Business, 1.6GHz VIA CPU, 2 GB DDR2 RAM, 120GB 7200RPM HD, and 1280 x 768 resolution screen. After a $100 rebate on TigerDirect, it's "only" setting me back $400.

My first impressions are:

I LOVE the hardware, especially the keyboard and aluminum/heat-sinking shell
It's amazing they can cram that many pixels into a 9 inch screen
Office 2007 Professional runs just fine on the device, including Outlook and Word (bear in mind that I haven't tried loading any calculation-heaving Excel files)
Wi-Fi detection, connection and speeds all seem fine to me.
The sound out of this thing is really good (and loud)
The 6-cell battery that comes with this model has the added ergonomic benefit of tilting the keyboard.
Vista's RACAgent.exe process over-burdens the single-core CPU - and Vista has it scheduled to run every hour (!!) by default. Most often when they response time drops through the floor, that process is running.
IE 7 seems slow to start (of course, it's also slow to start on my "power" AMD 3GHz FX processor-based system with 1GB of DDR2 SLI Graphics cards running XP)

I have copied over my 1 GB Mail (PST) files and it opens them without a hitch. I've also used it to take notes (and modify forms on-the-fly during a user requirements meeting) which also worked without a hitch. I have even used all of the above at the same time, though there is a bit of a delay in switching between applications.

Having said that, I should say that, in fairness, I have adjusted my expectations in advance knowing that it comes with an under 2Ghz SINGLE-core process (just like the Intel Atom is). It is definately slower than a dual-core laptop with the same amount of RAM and running Vista would be. Honestly, though Microsoft doesn't say so, Vista requires a dual-core processor to run well. So, the fact that this runs Vista Business at all is pretty good. Also, I have employed several performance tweaks to squeeze the best performance/appearance balance I could. I imagine, however, that the 2133 Mini-Note would run XP Pro quite a bit faster!

aximbigfan · 01-10-09, 03:30 PM

Just ordered mine yesterday.
Windows XP (formatting and putting my own on)
1Gb of RAM (free)
16GB SSD
10.1'' screen

Planned upgrades:
- Linux (Maybe)
- 2GB high end notebook RAM
- Better SSD

Chris

01-12-09, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by aximbigfan

Just ordered mine yesterday.
Windows XP (formatting and putting my own on)
1Gb of RAM (free)
16GB SSD
10.1'' screen

Planned upgrades:
- Linux (Maybe)
- 2GB high end notebook RAM
- Better SSD

Chris

Sounds great Chris!

Mine so far.....

HP Mini 1000
10.2" | 2GB RAM (upgraded) | 60GB 4200RPM PATA Hard Drive | Wireless-G Card with Bluetooth
BT Mini Mouse | 13 Port USB Hub | eBoostr Cached 16GB USB Memory Stick | 500GB 3.5" SATA>USB HDD
128GB RunCore SSD to replace HDD RSN.|

Ah yes but all the while good ole HP hasn't been sleeping and HP's new Mini 2140 stuffs Atom, larger screen into original form factor
this at HP's new Mini 2140 stuffs Atom, larger screen into original form factor - Engadget

and

HP Mini 2140 Reviewed @ HP Mini 2140 Reviewed - Portable Monkey

and

HP Mini 2140 Notebook PC - overview and features @ HP Mini 2140 Notebook PC overview - HP Small & Medium Business products

Lest we all not blink or technology will pass us by...

Take Care

aximbigfan · 01-12-09, 06:23 PM

01-13-09, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by aximbigfan

Yes I did Chris:

Twice as a matter of fact, and have also bought 2 different interface setups to permit plugins of zif cable drives to USB ports to clone the HDD's. The first pick was a Samsung 1.8 zif 120GB drive that spun at 5400 rpm with 8MB buffer, the second was a 120GB 1.8 zif Toshiba 4200 rpm.In each case there's a small instruction pack that talks about "moving the zif plugs lever" to open the plig to insert the ribbon into the plug; then close the lever and clone the thing. Well either my 65+ year old eyes fail me but I can see no way to move that "lever" so I haven't been able to get the new drives cloned, much less installed into the mini. Now the Runcore has a zif but a much more practical method of opening/closing the plug, Also once installed the SSD uses less power, is less fragile and...and......

jkkmobile: Runcore 1.8 inch SSD on HP Mini 1000 netbook

aximbigfan · 01-13-09, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by billpool

Yes I did Chris:

Twice as a matter of fact, and have also bought 2 different interface setups to permit plugins of zif cable drives to USB ports to clone the HDD's. The first pick was a Samsung 1.8 zif 120GB drive that spun at 5400 rpm with 8MB buffer, the second was a 120GB 1.8 zif Toshiba 4200 rpm.In each case there's a small instruction pack that talks about "moving the zif plugs lever" to open the plig to insert the ribbon into the plug; then close the lever and clone the thing. Well either my 65+ year old eyes fail me but I can see no way to move that "lever" so I haven't been able to get the new drives cloned, much less installed into the mini. Now the Runcore has a zif but a much more practical method of opening/closing the plug, Also once installed the SSD uses less power, is less fragile and...and......

jkkmobile: Runcore 1.8 inch SSD on HP Mini 1000 netbook

Interesting.

I plan to get the fastest SSD possible (don't care about capacity), and load DSL Linux on the Mini. I figured with that setup, it will fly.

I'm trying to get the thing to boot up and be ready for internet browsing as fast as possible. I figure DSL Linux + overkill system will boot as fast as it's going to get.

BTW: I received my tracking number today. It is in Shanghai, CN right now, and will be here on the 16th.

Did yours come from china too?

Chris

aximbigfan · 01-14-09, 11:21 AM

FedEx came today. I was sleeping and woke up the dog barking (finally, he comes in handy for something!) I ran downstairs, opened the door, and signed off the package.

After opening the box, the first task weould be to put the battery in. The battery is large, but very thing.

The initial bootup is pretty typical for any OEM.

After bootup, the device is quite responsive, and menus seem to open pretty easily.

I'm installing XP now, so I'll be back later for more impressions.

Chris

aximbigfan · 01-14-09, 11:24 AM

FedEx came today. I was sleeping and woke up the dog barking (finally, he comes in handy for something!) I ran downstairs, opened the door, and signed off the package.

After opening the box, the first task weould be to put the battery in. The battery is large, but very thing.

The initial bootup is pretty typical for any OEM.

After bootup, the device is quite responsive, and menus seem to open pretty easily.

I'm installing XP now, so I'll be back later for more impressions.

Chris

FrinkTL · 01-16-09, 10:29 PM

I can't provide any side-by-side comparisons, since I only have the 2133 in my possession. I have, however, read the specs and considered buying one of the 1000 series HP Minis. I chose to buy the 2133 Mini-note instead. Why? There are several reasons, but here's the short list:

Durability - The anodized (a process that strengthens the metal) aluminum outer shell and magnesium alloy inner frame and hinges distinguish it not just from the 1000 series but also from ALL other sub-notebooks.
Durability - The 3 dimensional DriveGuard detects potential damaging forces before they happen to the hard drive an parks the drive heads before the vibration have a chance to damage the disk
Screen Resolution - the best resolution available on the 1000 Mini is 1024 x 600 whereas the 2133 Mini-Note has a resolution of 1280 x 768. It is true that the 1000 series sports a physically larger than the screen of the Mini-Note, but only the resolution of the Mini-Note has the resolution to be able to view any web page the way it was meant to be viewed (without scrolling all the time)
Network - While both the 1000 Mini series and the 2133 Mini-Note both have integrated network, only the 2133 Mini-note supports Gigabit Ethernet
Storage - The 1000 Mini tops out at 60GB - and that with only a 4200 RPM drive - the 2133 Mini sports up to a 160GB drive that is a 7200 RPM drive. As far as access times go, the difference between 4200 and 7200 RPM is about a factor of 2.
Powered USB - The presence of this port on any sub-notebook or full-sized notebook, for that matter, sets it apart from all of the competition. This means that I can plug in my LiteOn e208 External All-Write optical drive and run it on full-speed (normal) mode powered solely by that USB port. I don't even need to use the special "Y" USB connect to draw power from another port. That effectively negates the one drawback of the sub-notebook, the absence of an optical drive. Now I can have my cake and eat it too…except that I get to choose to how much I get to carry with me.
Express 54/34 Expansion - Go ahead, try to find another sub-notebook that has this level of expandability. Seriously, there are only a small handful of full sized laptops that have Express anything ports, and the vast majority of those only have the smaller, less capable Express 34 slot. This option makes this workhorse able to grow anywhere you want it to go...a broadband card...whatever your heart can dream up
VGA Out - Common on full-sized notebooks, it's less common on the sub-notebook (the 2133 Mini-Note is more than a net book). The 2123 Mini-Note has it.
Speakers - OK, honestly, I have no idea what sort of sound the 1000 Mini series produces, but I have to tell you that the speakers on either side of the 9 inch screen on the 2133 MIni-Note are the best I've ever heard on ANY laptop. They are loud enough to be heard over the TV when it's on. And, since they are mounted on the lid, the speakers are also aimed at your ears. This makes for the sound making it to your ears without any degradation. There is even good sound separation so you can tell the left from right channels (which I wouldn't have expected when the speakers are separated by less than 10 inches). Ah, the miracles of science!

Before you say it, Yes, that is the SHORT list - or at least it was supposed to be. Stuff to consider though. Those feature differences, coupled with the fact that I bought the top-of-the line HP 2133 Mini-Note for $400 (after a $100 mail-in rebate), the differences were more than enough to make the decision of which to get a no-brainer.

05-02-09, 10:18 AM

Hi billpool and abf,
Thanks for sharing your experiences with your hp 1000s. Just wondering if, after some months of use, you remain very pleased with your netbooks. I've been looking at getting one of these and would appreciate hearing your continued experiences.
thanks, hstn

05-03-09, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by hstn

Hi billpool and abf,
Thanks for sharing your experiences with your hp 1000s. Just wondering if, after some months of use, you remain very pleased with your netbooks. I've been looking at getting one of these and would appreciate hearing your continued experiences.
thanks, hstn

Well...long story... Mine has taken a back seat to the 2140 and 2140HD of late. I don't know if you've been following the multiple problems with the Runcore SSD's but after one defective RMA and reading horror stories on others installing runcore's second tries I've not attempted the install. Don't want to tear the HDD out only to find out the same as others have. I personally don't need the stress.

I did convert to XPPro on the 1000 though.

Personally, I do not care for the zif/lif for the HDD. IMHO it just seems much too fragile and not compatable to generic zif cabling.

Sorry for the untimely non glowing report...