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Old 01-25-07, 04:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wake-On-Lan util

Anyone know of a utility that will send a wake on lan packet from an Axim?

P.S. I'm currently looking to see if a Mortscript routine could be used. If anyone has used mortscript to do this I'd appreciate your help.
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Old 01-25-07, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-25-07, 08:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Excellent. Thanks dvmed
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Old 01-25-07, 09:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If it can work past a router let us (me) know. Most of the magic packets are blocked by routers so using it wirelessly is impossible... it would have to be a cabled connection.
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If it can work past a router let us (me) know. Most of the magic packets are blocked by routers so using it wirelessly is impossible... it would have to be a cabled connection.

I wish people would do their research before making bold statements like that.

Wirelessly impossible, you say?

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-802-11a-W.../dp/B0001FSCZY

http://www.ovislink.com.tw/menushare.htm

http://www.ciao.co.uk/Asante_Friendl...104_G__5774219

http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11739...ess_Point.html


Why would Cambridge Computers add a Wake on Lan utility on a software (vxUtil) made for a wireless device if WOL is wirelessly impossible?

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I wish people would do their research before making bold statements like that.

Wirelessly impossible, you say?


Why would Cambridge Computers add a Wake on Lan utility on a software (vxUtil) made for a wireless device if WOL is wirelessly impossible?

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How are Magic Packets sent?
Magic packets are sent using a directed broadcast, which is a broadcast to all of the machines on a particular subnet. For example, a directed broadcast address could be specified as 192.168.100.255, which would go to all machines on the 192.168.10.x/24 network.

Many administrators turn off routing of subnet-directed broadcasts, because they can be abused by hackers in order to generate large amounts of extra network traffic.
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The "Wake On LAN Utility" is a small, under development utility that will power up other computers in your network. Generally, the target machine will have to be on the same subnet as the computer from which you are running this application (since the "magic packet" is a broadcast), however you can get around this by building off the code base and implementing your own routing solution.

So I wish people would know what they are talking about before spouting off...
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You've just proven my point with your quotes. The router acts as a network hub which means that all devices connected to it (eg. in a home network) are under the same subnet, otherwise these devices cannot communicate with each other. I just gave you links in which wireless routers have the ability to allow magic packets to be sent (thru broadcast) to WOL enabled computers. Why would they create such routers if it cannot be done. Furthermore, they also developed a wireless network card with WOL capabilities which means that it doesn't have to be connected physically to a router or a network hub to wake.
If you're going to prove me wrong you have to do better than just copy and pasting quotes which only explains WOL. Computers doesn't have to be wired to be in the same subnet.

eg. my desktop (directly connected to the wireless router) has an IP 192.168.1.111 subnet 255.255.255.0

my other computers (wifi hub) have 192.168.1.10x and same subnet
Axim has 192.168.1.104 same subnet
How does that differ from your example above?

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Old 08-07-07, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have read your replies.

I just bought a dell optiplex 745 (small form factor), and it has an option to put the WOL.

I understand and can do it.

My questions is:
can you wake a pc up from a wifi usb adapter ? The idea will be to plug this usb adapter on a self powered usb Hub (to provide its own power) and send some packets over the wifi, and have the pc wake up when it receive those packets.

Do you think it is even possible, or the best solution remains to plug the computer with the Ethernet cable, directly to the router (and using the DDns integrated to the router, to avoid the IP change from comcast ) ?

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Old 08-07-07, 09:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Sebastian,
Sorry, I don't have the faintest clue about the wifi usb adapter method.

My setup is as follows. Motherboard Asus p4S800-mx (I know it's old, lol); linksys WRT54G router (old as well :P); Linksys (LNE100TX) EtherFast 10/100Mbps LAN Card with WOL. I've only done it on a local wireless network but I read a certain Liam Wesley was able to make it work on a WRT54G router using broadband and port forwarding. I have yet to try it though.

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Old 08-08-07, 12:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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thanks

In fact this is better help than any other site

As for the usb-wifi, I was hoping, in the great empty - I know it is theoretically possible,but doing it maybe a pain.

In fact I am kind of stuck - I am a bit far away from the main router. But well, I can still reorganize everything.

What is great is that the dell I have, have a function to have hours to have it turn on and turn off by itself (a first for me!). I may also uses that.

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Thanks for the Liam Wesley link, dvmed

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Old 08-08-07, 10:14 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I did not understand all of what he was saying about the subnet - but I will ask him.

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Ok,

I have a tricky question, if anyone ever had tested or used this set up .....

I would like to use the dyndns service, with the linksys WRT54G - so far so good, it should be ok.

BUT, I would like to know if I use to reach my computer one of those Ethernet Bridge over the power outlet, if that would still work ?
with one of those
Amazon.com: IOGear GHPB32W4 PowerLine Networking Kit: Electronics

Or if you think that should not do it and I will lose the signal ?


Otherwise, regarding my first post. I found a Ethernet to Woreless bridge, like that one:Amazon.com: D-Link DWL-G810 Ethernet to Wireless Bridge Adapter, 802.11g, 108Mbps: Electronics

maybe, because it is powered up by its own ac power, and it is plug to the NIC card itcan work as a WOL over teh wifi ?

Any idea ?

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