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[Jwilker]

Originally posted by papajackow
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LOL Where do you think I got that LOL NINJAS ROCK!

[jeepfaned]

i wont pretend to like marilyn mansons voice or words...im a huge music nut..and will admit the music of some of the songs sounds ok..a few songs have real good gutsy raunchy hard pounding beats...but i just dont like his voice or words...then again..i do like the some beautiful people..i hear it on wwe alot..gets your blood pumpin!!
im more of a blues and 80s rock kinda guy!!

[Jwilker]

Beautiful people is a good one. So is the cover he did of tainted love. I like Dope show too. Those're the three LOL

[Howard2k]

I like his cover of Sweet Dreams too.. Another good one

[jeepfaned]

star...always there with the cool pics...but which one of the pics is of you??

[MyUncle]

To a rational mind who might be feeling guilt then sure. But come on.

So how does ones mind become Irrational? Oh I'm sorry, we have to call it some syndrome/disorder so that we can make them a victim of it.

I am not going to be happy that anyone is molested, even my own kids, you knew that. I do not think we should do away with Laws and punishments, I just think the ADDED self inflicted punishment is probably WHY these types of person have a distorted view of reality. They simply can not live with themselves in reality any longer. Again, I suggest this only as a plausible result of their own actions.

[MyUncle]

As to the pursuit of knowledge being a crime. How does that translate into today's world? Should we all stop pursuing knowledge? Stop sending our kids to school? Is knowlegde of the bible a crime too?

I think, if you re-read, you'll find I never said Knowledge was a crime but that as I understand it God can not tolerate our being so PROUD of our knowledge that many of us feel we no longer need him. Pride is the problem - Knowledge tends to lead us to that end. That is all.

So proceed at will, but maintain perspective. I, because of my beliefs, do not want to sound like a flea complaining about the dog on which I live.

And.... I do not take offense to questioning my faith, or why I believe what I believe. I, like all of you, am a work in progress. I do not profess to have all of the answers, just what I believe based upon what I have learned thru my life thus far. The end result may be far different that what currently is. I was born, raised and confirmed catholic, and am now just a generic non-denomonational Christian. What I am now leaning towards however is Mesianic Jewdeism, which I feel contains a better historical perspective of the culture in which the life of Christ occured. And a better understanding of the Cultural meanings of the Old test. text.

[MyUncle]

The 10 commandments come from the old testament. You don't have to adhere to those?

Short answer...NO!

Those Comandments were given to establish for me that I could not earn my way into heaven ( by living up to the standard of those commandments) without Gods' intervention. When Jesus died he paid for my shortcomings and now by the Grace of gods' intervention and sacrifice, I am now able to be returned to an eternal relationship with God.

Jesus gave us New Commandments I listed all three of them in my previous post in this thread.

If you study those you will probably agree that you live, more or less, by the same standards (except for probably the first one)

Also, Jesus claimed to be the same God that led the Jews and that he was, as an alert being, aware of things that happened, first hand, before the time when he was born. Interestingly in Genesis, (Old Test.) where it talks of creation, God talks of himself as a plural being. (and so it was, and we were glad with it)

[MyUncle]

I've always found it interesting that Jesus was actually trying to reform the Jewish religion rather than start his own - I wonder what he'd think of Christianity today ... he'd probably be ashamed.

If you read what he has said he clearly claimed he IS GOD and that it IS his own Religion that He was around from the beginning of it. (i.e. Creation) " I am the Alpha and the Omega - The Begining and the End".

I do not feel that GOD will ever be ashamed. I believe that he leaves that exclusively for us.

[MyUncle]

you can discredit the crazy stuff from the Old Testament if you want by saying that it isn't relevant or that a particular story is just a parable, while at the same time taking verses from it to prove your point. Do you see the trouble I and others have with this?

I do not expect you to fully understand, by the bits a pieces you have heard along the way, which parts are Parables (or stories that illustrate examples) and which parts are relevant or not. If you wish to know for yourself you should read it yourself and continue to ask questions....like your doing here.

If I open the hood to my car I can see that there is an engine in there, but I can not easily understand how it works and why it works. It requires further study.

Ten Years ago my Father and I went to Italy to visit my Grandparents. My Father, having been very succesful in his business, went out and bought my Grandparents a newer TV with a Wireless remote as a gift. When we brought it home we had some trouble with the remote because the batteries that came with it were dead right out of the box. My Grandfather immediately started telling my father what a fool he was, and how the guys at the TV Store saw him as a stupid rich man walking into their store. It simply could not work because there were no wires you see.

I was also informed how sorry he was for Sylvester Stalone. We were watching the news on this TV and Sly was being interviewed. My GrandFather, he was 89 at the time, thought the ear phone sly was recieveing translations on was a hearing aid. My grandfather thought it was such a shame that such a young man like this had the same problems hearing that he had.

Just because you do not understand it does not mean it is incorrect, wrong or some devious plot to trick you. If I am trying to trick you then am I also tricking myself? Why? What do I have to gain by that?

If anything I would prefer to be One bum, sharing with another where to find bread. where you may find it AND were I may find it.

I am enjoying this thread. I hope others are too.

[Xyress]

Originally posted by MyUncle
Just because you do not understand it does not mean it is incorrect, wrong or some devious plot to trick you. If I am trying to trick you then am I also tricking myself? Why? What do I have to gain by that?

Heaven.

[MyUncle]

Star,

I agree with you, and with the same qualifier. SOMETIMES. Do you think my theory, that sometimes it is self induced, is not plausible? Why? I think many times we are our own worst enemy, at least some days I do.

[Howard2k]

MyUncle,

I agree with that. I think. IMHO some of these sick people genuinely are sick, some genuinely are irrational and some are perfectly sane, healthy and rational.

[Ace750dude]

Originally posted by Xyress

The basic point here is that you should allow yourself to take a step back and look at the whole situation as to why you should take a 2000+ year old book for the truth.

Do you know of any other book that has been around as long?
Why do you think it's survived as long as it has?

[Howard2k]

Originally posted by Ace750dude
Do you know of any other book that has been around as long?
Why do you think it's survived as long as it has?

You think because it's true?

What about the Quran?
The book of Izra?
The book