Archived - A thread about nothing....

[jimbosquid]

This thread is so deep that know one really knows what its for.

[geneb]

Star

Have you been drinking tea with Alice again?

[Xyress]

Originally posted by MyUncle
You have three choices

Jesus Christ is either A) who he says he is (God ) B) a Lunatic who died for his real belief that he was GOD or c) a foolish liar who also died as payment for the crime of lying to us all.

D) A real man who preached compassion and a return to the core values of Judaism, yet was wildly misquoted and turned into a martyr after the Romans crucified him for stirring up trouble.

I have some more to add on this later, but I'll leave you with that one to chew on for a little bit ...

[Howard2k]

E) A a persona created for the objective of pushing a set of beliefs.

[hnelson59]

Originally posted by Xyress
D) A real man who preached compassion and a return to the core values of Judaism, yet was wildly misquoted and turned into a martyr after the Romans crucified him for stirring up trouble.

just as an aside . . . here is a link, albeit religious in nature, that tries to establish the validity of jesus' claims about himself. many references to ancient writings, scholars, etc. may be something to check out . . .

http://www.whoisjesus-really.com/english/default.htm

Originally posted by geneb
Star

Have you been drinking tea with Alice again?

I stopped reading the book to early to know if it was from Alice, but I know it was in a song "What I am"

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean
Philosophy is the talk on a cereal box
Religion is the smile on a dog
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean, d-doo yeah

Choke me in the shallow waters
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or

I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean
Philosophy is a walk on the slippery rocks
Religion is a light in the fog
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean, d-doo yeah

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep
Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what you are?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what

Nah-nah-nah-nah
I say, I say, I say
I do hey-hey-hey-hey-hey-hey

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what you are?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what you are?

[Jwilker]

you can be my body guard.

Star50, I'll call you Al, but you can't call me Betty.

Potpourri for everyone!

[wmrawls]

You know if I did not know better I would think that your multiple personna's have all set up ID's on this board and that not only do you answer your own uniquely and wonderfully zany posts, but that you compete with your self to one up each of the previous posts.

Wait a minute ....I don't know better......

maybe its jsut me and you with 30000 personalities on this board...........................aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[wmrawls]

You win. Your obviously #1...does that make me #2?
Where are you getting those cool little buggers?


Oh well we are off topic...thank the stars.

[ikehiker]

Oh man. I go away to work and come back to a thread about song lyrics and smilies???? Well, guess what, it’s not gonna work. I’m taking this back onto topic (or at least closer).

Originally posted by MyUncle
I think "most" is a fair statement. I just don't like being broad brushed! I MIGHT be a just little too sensative about it.

As I said, my intent with the comment in the original post was not to imply what any one, Christians or non Christians, are doing with their own children. I was merely expressing what I believed/hoped that I would have done and by expressing it, to paint a picture of my own attitudes toward religion. and I suppose to pay a compliment to Star although I’ll keep this fact somewhat to myself so none of his personalities get a swelled head. It sounds like there’s not enough room in there as it is.

Originally posted by Xyress
To have faith means that one truly believes in their religion - not that they know that their religion is absolute truth. In fact, the very definition of faith is a belief without knowledge or proof. A fair statement would be something like, "I believe with all my heart that Jesus was the savior" ... not, "I know that Jesus was the savior". That is what I take issue with.

X,
That’s a good point although I’ve often heard the phrase you used, “I believe with all my heart…” expressed by people as “I know with all my heart…” and not just in the context of religious issues. While your definitions are completely correct, I wonder if popular use (maybe even due to geographical differences) has resulted in some people using the word know in this context automatically. I do agree completely with you that it’s pretty hard to swallow when it’s followed by “and you’re going to hell if you don’t also believe this.” Like Mrs. Scheisskopf, that’s not the kind of G-d I don’t believe in.

[Jwilker]

Originally posted by star50fiveoh
My head is much like a TARDIS........much larger on the inside than it appears.

is it also big and red? It may be hydrocephalis (sp)

Watch out for the Daleks.

[Xyress]

I appreciate you trying to bring the thread back on topic

I can see your point about the know vs. believe thing. Maybe it's as simple as symantics and not worth arguing. It's just one of my pet peeves when people say that they know where they're going when they die or that they know the truth. Based on the simple fact that there are so many different Christian denominations pretty much proves that none of them have direct contact with a god.

Anyway, I plan to raise my kids with knowledge of all religions and let them decide for themselves what they want to believe in. I'd hate to condemn them to hell if I'm wrong! On the other hand, if Hinduism is the winner, I'd like to think I gave them at least a good chance of reincarnation!

[MyUncle]

This page references most of the info I spoke of earlier.

http://www.whoisjesus-really.com/english/claims.htm

It is at least interesting reading, even for skeptics. It is the most complete explaination of Who Jesus says he is, and as good basis for believing it that I have seen to date.