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[Wayfinder]

Originally posted by Jwilker
Sorry, didn't mean to impugn your character, I merely pointed out that your posts are edited quite often after being read. Since I don't don't screen capture each of them I can't tell what has changed. I was merely pointing out a fact.

However, since I recall no such post indicating the process you went through beyond,
"being force to learn evolution in school and then reading the bible and seeing it was the truth..." I assumed your real scientific approach had been added later on.

Nah, I don't really do that. When I edit, it's primarily to correct spelling, grammar, or to reword something that I think might appear too harsh in the end run. On the rare occasions I've had to go back and add or delete a thought (which is very rare-- I think I've done so twice) I've always left a post indicating I did so).

[Wayfinder]

Originally posted by Bulldog
Wow, that's profound ;)

Bulldog, you forgot the . His message deserved that one. :p

[Wayfinder]

Originally posted by Xyress
Similarly, arguing the case of evolution and against religion we are bound by logic and science, but creationists and fundamentalists have no such restriction. They can use whatever interpretations and almighty power that they want to justify things. It almost doesn't seem fair!
:p

I can't resist this one, just for the fun of it.

On the other hand, we supporters of God have to stick to truth, whereas we have to tolerate evolutionists just putting any old thing on the board within the realm of theory and personal philosophy.

[Jwilker]

Originally posted by Wayfinder
Nah, I don't really do that. When I edit, it's primarily to correct spelling, grammar, or to change something that I think might appear too harsh in the end run. On the rare occasions I've had to go back and add or delete a thought (which is very rare-- I think I've done so twice) I've always left a post indicating I did so).

Like I said, I'll just have to take your word for it. I don't print screen your posts so I have no idea what changes from posting to editing.

[Wayfinder]

Originally posted by Bulldog

Donuts,
is there anything they can't do??

I love it. The evolutionists probably won't catch the reference... but I bet HNelson does.

[jeepfaned]

hey x...in regards to this.."and have to play by different rules than the bad guys? " i dont think a person who believes in God is "the bad guy". but an answer i might add would be..thats the joy of having God on our side.
and in regards to the end of that post..we dont have to justify or anylize anything,God does that for us because he is so much above our understanding and thinking..none of us have do or will ever EVER be able to explain God cuz his existance superceeds us and our ability to explain,justify,rationalize,theorize,or think.
all man can do is debate from our standpoint(against Gods existance) and therefore we have already lost the debate because God is almighty,alpha and omega..better then man. and for a man to try to debate on Gods behalf..doesnt give God his just dues..

Originally posted by Jwilker
Like I said, I'll just have to take your word for it. I don't print screen your posts so I have no idea what changes from posting to editing.

Just make sure you use the [quote] on his posts. That way at least we'll know what you are talking about.

To Wayfinder - You do realize there is a "Preview Reply" option right?

[ikehiker]

Originally posted by Wayfinder
1) The Bible teaches otherwise and since by extensive personal study I have come to recognize the Bible as the word of God, I take it as truth.

Really??? The Bible literally says, don’t believe in evolution? That’s amazing considering it was written by men millennia before the concept was ever considered. The men that wrote that book, whether they were guided by G-d’s hand or were simply very wise men that knew they needed to control the less informed masses, did not know a lot that we know today.

They didn’t know microbes existed - Leeuwenhoek showed that in the 17th century.

They didn’t know larger organisms were made up of cells (cell theory; Scheiden and Schwann, 1838).

They didn’t have Darwin’s insight that organisms adapt to their environment over time, thus proposing the Origin of the Species in 1859 or that traits resided on genes (Mendel showed that in 1865).

They didn’t know those genes existed on chromosomes (Sutton and Bover, 1903) or the chromosomes were made up of the double helix DNA (Watson and Crick, 1953).

They didn’t know the precise sequence of that DNA in triplets of nucleotides creates a specific sequence of amino acids in proteins (the genetic code, Nirenberg, 1965).

They didn’t know that a change in a single base pair of that sequence can result in a different protein or that this difference could give an individual a selective advantage to survive in its environment or that the change could be passed on to it’s offspring thus giving them that same advantage.

In spite of being so uninformed, those men wrote in a book that evolution is not the way G-d created all the plants and animals on earth. Really, really amazing.

[jeepfaned]

i think its pretty sad that when someone is talking about God in a thread..they cant even type "God" or "god" as if its a sin to them to write the whole word "God" they have to omit letters as if they might get tainted or punished for typing the whole word.

i wonder if these same people believe in the devil..........do you??

[Jwilker]

I don't. It's be kinda contradictory to believe in one and not the other, as one is a result of the other.

I use god not God, because I use it as a term not a name.

[jeepfaned]

jw....do you believe in God?

[Jwilker]

no

[ikehiker]

You commented earlier about respect. I mentioned very early on in this thread that in the Jewish religion, it is considered a sin to erase or deface the name of G-d. So, what you see as an insult to your beliefs is respect for other people. I guess Jews don't count since they don't belive in your Christ.

Also, if you want to read back through my posts, you'll see I've never argued against the existence of G-d. I do respect other peoples beliefs. My arguments have only been relative to the truth of evolution. You and your fellow Christians have made many more disparaging remarks than any of the non-believers on this thread.

And of course I have no belief in the devil. If I don't believe there is evidence to prove G-d, there's none for the devil, either.

[jeepfaned]

then you just contradicted yourself with this........

"as one is a result of the other."

how can 1 be if the 1st isnt there to begin with...in your book?
i assume you mean that the devil is a result of God..but if you dont believe in God..then how can the devil be a result of God if he doesnt exist?

you admitted up there that....as one is a result of the other."

i dont understand that

[Xyress]

Originally posted by jeepfaned
hey x...in regards to this.."and have to play by different rules than the bad guys? " i dont think a person who believes in God is "the bad guy". but an answer i might add would be..thats the joy of having God on our side.
and in regards to the end of that post..we dont have to justify or anylize anything,God does that for us because he is so much above our understanding and thinking..none of us have do or will ever EVER be able to explain God cuz his existance superceeds us and our ability to explain,justify,rationalize,theorize,or think.
all man can do is debate from our standpoint(against Gods existance) and therefore we have already lost the debate because God is almighty,alpha and omega..better then man. and for a man to try to debate on Gods behalf..doesnt give God his just dues..

Thank you sir, you've proved my point.

Oh, and since you were unable to make the mental leap that the analogy requred, I did not mean to imply that Christians are "bad guys" ... it's just that the Christians and the bad guys in the comic books both don't play by the rules. That was the point in case you missed it.