you know. I give you guys a window while I drive home to post away without me. I even had to stop at the store for Drain-O and water.
I was expecting a few wayfinders, maybe a Jeepfaned or two? Instead we're talking about Jedis in same sex marriages, who like vanilla ice cream, and some subsects who try to force everyone else to be Jedi.
I must say I am disappointed... :D
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Originally posted by Warrior ...I believe I will be a forgiven soul for all of my many transgressions and sins. If I am wrong then my life will not have been wasted as I know I have touched many with my life and hopefully made theirs better for it. Mine was made better for the way everyone has touch mine, good or bad.
You know, Warrior, I can completely agree with your last 1.5 sentences. It's the way I feel about life and, as I've tried to make clear in earlier posts, I really try "to live and let live" - having no issue with people that have the beliefs you express in the first part of your post (I know it may not seem so based on some of the ways I've responded to the anti-evolution sentiments, but those were hitting too close to my livelihood).
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Originally posted by Jwilker No believing about it. Chocolate! You heretic! How could you ask that? :D
actually, j, my favorite flavor is white russian. it was a ben & jerry's flavor that sadly is no longer made in its pure form. they have mixed it with coffee ice cream.
Originally posted by ikehiker Really??? The Bible literally says, don’t believe in evolution? That’s amazing considering it was written by men millennia before the concept was ever considered.
What you fail to realize is that men were not the authors of the Bible. God is. And he is well acquainted with all the things you mentioned in your post-- and far more than you currently can even imagine.
So when the Bible states that God "created man from the dust of the ground"... that does not mean he evolved from an ape.
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Originally posted by ikehiker You know, Warrior, I can completely agree with your last 1.5 sentences. It's the way I feel about life and, as I've tried to make clear in earlier posts, I really try "to live and let live" - having no issue with people that have the beliefs you express in the first part of your post (I know it may not seem so based on some of the ways I've responded to the anti-evolution sentiments, but those were hitting too close to my livelihood).
Ike,
I cannot speak honestly for anyone but myself. I try to live my life the way I been taught. I let everyone else live theirs the way they want, even though I may completely disagree. This changes completely when their beliefs and actions tread personally on me and my family.
Thanks for your post.
Warrior
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Originally posted by ikehiker
[B]You commented earlier about respect. I mentioned very early on in this thread that in the Jewish religion, it is considered a sin to erase or deface the name of G-d. So, what you see as an insult to your beliefs is respect for other people. I guess Jews don't count since they don't belive in your Christ.
Actually, your argument here contains a major flaw. It is not considered a sin in the Jewish religion to use the term God. In the past (I am not sure about present) their tradition (not Biblical teaching) has it that they are not to openly use the word YHWH... the tetragrammaton, which is roughly translated Yahweh, Jehovah. Since this is the personal name of God, their man-made tradition has it that it is too holy to pronounce.
So your argument kinda falls really flat.
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Originally posted by Wayfinder So when the Bible states that God "created man from the dust of the ground"... that does not mean he evolved from an ape.
Really? Why not? You add water to that dust and 3.5 million years ago, you could have the 'primorial soup' from which all the chemicals of life could have come. So, that fact that the men putting the words onto parchment (or stone tablets) would not have grasped the concept of nucleotides and amino acids, etc. has no baring on what has ended up in the Bible?
Again, that's really interesting that YOUR interpretation is that G-d says don't believe in evolution.
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Originally posted by Wayfinder Actually, your argument here contains a major flaw. It is not considered a sin in the Jewish religion to use the term God. In the past (I am not sure about present) their tradition (not Biblical teaching) has it that they are not to openly use the word YHWH... the tetragrammaton, which is roughly translated Yahweh, Jehovah. Since this is the personal name of God, their man-made tradition has it that it is too holy to pronounce.
So your argument kinda falls really flat.
i'm sorry, but i need to say something here. ike is trying to respect an ideal. the exact specifics may have been missed, but the intent, i do not think was.
me thinks you need to cut him some slack. please. :)
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Man DID write the bible though. It may have supposedly been paraphrased from God, but God did not sit there with a pen and write it himself. What we have as the bible today is a collection of books written at different times by different people and bundled together in a format the is agreed to by the church.
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Originally posted by Xyress As an addendum, I use "God" to refer to the proper noun for the Christian god and "god" to refer to the noun "god" for supreme beings. I do it because I feel that using the lower-case "god" when talking about the Christian god can be perceived as an insult.
Actually Xyress... your summary here is quite accurate.
In the English language, God refers to Almighty God, El Shaddai, Yaweh, Jehovah. The term in lower case letters 'god' is generic and refers to non-Christian gods. So your perception and usage is correct.
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