I don't think this student was trying to make any sort of freedom of expression issue... most likely the bottom line is the fact that his school didn't allow shorts & he was simply trying to get around the rules.
Reminds me of junior high when we girls would wear cullottes or gauchos apparently, they're coming back!
The worst among us would claim to have spilled or otherwise soiled our jeans so we could wear our gym shorts
I hope this flashback to 1975 lightened the mood around here a bit ;)
The school had NO right to send him home or threaten him that if he wore a dress, kilt or skirt, he could no longer attend school. That is just absurd. I see that he can now wear skirts, but i believe that the school should be dealt with legally on the topic of threating to expell on just the justification of a man wearing a certain type of clothing that is NOT violating the dress code and also for sending him home in the first place. Now if the dress code had said NO SKIRTS, then the school has a right to send him home and suspend/expell if he keeps breaking the rule. But the dress code allows skirts, and does not specify a gender. IMO specifing a gender would be sex discrimination anyway.... Because he did not break any codes/rules at school i do not believe the school had the right to send him home and threaten him based on the fact that their personal opinion is "guys shouldn't wear skirts", and that their own rules allow it. I think he should sue the school.
The school had NO right to send him home or threaten him that if he wore a dress, kilt or skirt, he could no longer attend school. That is just absurd. I see that he can now wear skirts, but i believe that the school should be dealt with legally on the topic of threating to expell on just the justification of a man wearing a certain type of clothing that is NOT violating the dress code and also for sending him home in the first place. Now if the dress code had said NO SKIRTS, then the school has a right to send him home and suspend/expell if he keeps breaking the rule. But the dress code allows skirts, and does not specify a gender. IMO specifing a gender would be sex discrimination anyway.... Because he did not break any codes/rules at school i do not believe the school had the right to send him home and threaten him based on the fact that their personal opinion is "guys shouldn't wear skirts", and that their own rules allow it. I think he should sue the school.
So what next, girls wearing bikins to school and boy in speedos???? Where does it stop?????
So what next, girls wearing bikins to school and boy in speedos???? Where does it stop?????
It has nothing to do with indecent exposure and any extrapolation from the current subject matter is null on the grounds that it is a question of personal freedoms within the law. There is no and should be no law against a man being able to wear a skirt. Ergo since the school enforced a no skirts policy for men, the ACLU intervened and set things correct.
I understand your concerns about indecent exposure and embrace them as my own. I however do not feel that this will lead to any sort of brazen bikini butts or speedo sporting surfers in the schools of America. I'am progressive, I'll admit this anyday. I hold firmly my belief that personal freedoms are important in todays society, within the constructs of civilization one should not wear said aforementioned speedos and bikinis. Therefore I make the conjecture that it stops at this point.
Ergo I agree with you that the wearing of speedos and bikinis is wrong, but from the situation given in this article it will not develop into that scenario. I hope that you agree with me to some degree.
Originally Posted by mikeyp
at my school, u cant wear womens jeans if your a dude...
dude, if you wanna be a cross dresser, thats fine by me, but dont ask me to join u
I assure you that nobody here is in anyway trying to get you to join the ranks of crossdressers. A few folks in my school wear womens jeans, and no trouble comes from it. Not from peers, nor from the Faculty.
I'm sure if such a policy were invoked at my school, it would be circumvented with tight european cut men jeans no doubt. It may violate the spirit, but it surely does not violate the letter.
So what next, girls wearing bikins to school and boy in speedos???? Where does it stop?????
I said nothing like that. There should always be an exposure rule and the dress code should be set properly to make sure students dress in something proper for a school environment. My argument was that if a piece of clothing is allowed for women, it should also be allowed for guys, regardless of sex. Who really DEFINES clothing and which sex it is? If you argue that guys should not be allowed to wear "women clothing", do you also believe guys with long hair should be made to cut it just because long hair is mostly found in the female gender?
I agree personal freedoms are important in society, but I also believe learning to live with rules and understanding that there are dress codes in many businesses/establishments is also important. Dressing sloppy should be saved for weekends and when at work or school we should learn to conform to the rules they dictate.
That is why I personally believe in school uniforms.
The skirts were Skorts and just as long and the shorts allowed for both sexes and the "dresses" were ankle length.
The same shirts, the same shorts, and the same pants for both, girls just had the option of the skorts or long dresses (which virtually no one chose)
All the same color, blue bottoms and white tops, red when in PE.
All the BS that comes from these stupid issues distracts from the important item of School is for learning (supposedly) not as a fashion show.. that is what the mall and the movies are for
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I am also not against uniforms, but I wouldn't have wanted to wear one when I went to school. They serve a purpose. Many poor families are unable to buy their children nice clothes and many children make fun of them. Uniforms prevent this. Everyone is equal.
All you need to do is find some Scottish ancestor & you too can wear the kilt. You also get to tuck a knife into your sock or if you live somewhere that's illegal you get a pretend one with no real blade.
No shaving legs though and absolutely no underwear allowed.
Then who decides what is the proper dress code??? E!, Cosmo, Better Home and Gardens. You know what if you dress in shorts and t-shirt to a business meeting, and you wonder why you didnt get the job its your own fault. But I have no problems if you want to meet with me during office hours dressed like that. I won't take you seriously but hey its a free country.
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