It's all about maintaining order. School is not supposed to be a social experiment. It is a teaching establisment. It is up to the people running the teaching environment to make sure that all impediments (disruptions) to learning are removed. No wonder people who have the funds are pulling their kids out of school. The inmates are running the asylum. That's just great.
Another example of: When it absolutely, positively has to be done with no brains or conscience ... US Marines!
I dont care about the guys skirt (I even dont care about those ridicolous marine uniforms ...), dont YOU have other problems?
Don't dis the USMC. If not for them you wouldn't be having this conversation. The cross dressers would have pretty little pink triangles on their attire...waiting in line to be made into a lamp shade.
The fact that someone wears a skirt does not make them gay
If some of you guys are homophobic or have suppressed issues then I'd suggest that this is not the place to be airing it. It's bordering on insulting and for some has already crossed that line.
If you want to discuss it like adults, carry on. Please try to refrain from throwing around ridiculous insults.
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great youre tellin me where the so called freedom of speech is ending ... at marine guns ... wasnt this dirty girl who took sex pictures of iraqian prisoners with dogs, sweet lindy england,
a marine? ... gee and you care about a skirt...
The truth of the matter is that freedoms start and stop at the end of a gun and lots of people get killed in the process. Look at history!! It's the lull in between where life is good. Right now we are in the lull in between. Enjoy because it never seems to last forever. By the way, that may have been degrading but is was far from torture. Eventually the brain will form completely and clear, logical and coherent thinking will be possible.
The fact that someone wears a skirt does not make them gay
If some of you guys are homophobic or have suppressed issues then I'd suggest that this is not the place to be airing it. It's bordering on insulting and for some has already crossed that line.
If you want to discuss it like adults, carry on. Please try to refrain from throwing around ridiculous insults.
It's about time some Five-Oh took a gander at this thread.
Not to say that response times aren't good. Just aboot time is all.
Fair enough, but also, just because someone thinks a guy wearing a skirt tends to show homosexual tendancies, that also does not make that individual "homophobic" or indicate that they "have suppressed issues".
Side note to saminegm: I made no personal insults to you, the fact that you disagree with my views does not give you the right to attack my character or that of the United States Marines. I would recomend you not repeat such comments in a public and personal setting, you may just find yourself eating your words and some of your teeth as well.
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Fair enough, but also, just because someone thinks a guy wearing a skirt tends to show homosexual tendancies, that also does not make that individual "homophobic" or indicate that they "have suppressed issues".
Yes I agree. Somebody saying "This Man Wears A Skirt, Thus He may be homosexual" is not homophobic. It is wrong on the basis of stereotyping, but yeah alot of homosexuals are feminine. Ofcourse not all of them.
However, calling one a "little flamer" or any of that other fellows delightful remarks can be construed as homophobic on the grounds of hate speech.
great youre tellin me where the so called freedom of speech is ending ... at marine guns ... wasnt this dirty girl who took sex pictures of iraqian prisoners with dogs, sweet lindy england,
a marine? ... gee and you care about a skirt...
Actually if you payed any attention to the reporting of the incident whatsoever you would know it was an Army incident and had nothing to do with any Marines. However, that Army incident is also not indicative of the entire Army, it was simply a case of individuals acting on thier own, individuals who will be punished for thier actions under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You should really think before you type.
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It depends which connotation one chooses to attach to such a word. I was operating under the idea that you had meant to connote that he was gay by using it in a negative context. If you say you were not and were simply using it under the guise of the dictionary definition then that is fine by me.
I'm not one to argue semantics, but I hope you can see how easily mistaken I could've been. If somebody calls somebody I know a faggot while walking down the street, I'm not going to assume that they are calling him a bundle of sticks afterall.
The sad thing about this whole issue is that American society has come to this. When I was in high school the issue would never occured because no self respecting guy would even consider wearing a skirt and if by some chance a student had a disagreement with the faculty over the dress code it would NEVER have ended up in court. In most cases the kids parents would have done thier job as parrents and put the kid straight. Allowing this hoodlum to disrupt an entire school or possible school system because he wants to have a tantrum over not being allowed to wear shorts to school borders on criminal in my mind. What gives this kid the right to jepordise the education of the rest of the students for a fashon statement? Next I suppose he will insist on using the girls locker room and restrooms. We're not talking about a kid whos basic human rights were restricted, were talking about someone who has more concern for his clothes than he does for his future. Shame on the ACLU for funding such madness and shame on this kids parents for not doing thier job.
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That's the problem with the politically correct mindset. It allows you to jump to conclusions and use terms like hate speech...also politcal double speak. Does hate speach apply only to the person who states something unflattering about a politically protected group? If your going to operate from this mindset aren't statements about the Marines hate speech as well? By that definition all speech that might offend anyone is hate speach. You could say that accusing someone of being homophobic is hate speech weather they are or they aren't. I certainly hope that if you choose to appy this philosophy of oppression that you do it in a fair and equal manner.
Speech becomes sterile clinical in that environment and bears little resemblance to the exercise of free speech. If something looks like a duck you should be able call it a duck..or an amphibious water foul of some unknown variety. It should be your choice not that of some politically correct Politburo.
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