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Old 02-10-06, 04:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Don't know where you've been, but there are ongoing proceedings.

1) Bushes buddy Tom Delay is under indictment in Bush's home state.
2) Cheney's number one is under indictment for lying about his role in the exposure of a CIA operative.
3) Hearing are currently underway over FEMA imcompetence.
4) Hearing are also underway over illegal wiretapping by the administration, which they were told by their own AG John Ashcroft and other top Justice attorneys was illegal.
5) Haiiburton has been cited repeatedly for overbilling in Iraq. (Hell, they aren't even smart enough to build it into their no bid contracts).
6) Investigations are ongoing regarding Bush's lies that have gotten 2500 more Americans killed in an unnecessary war in Iraq, that had nothing to do with the 3000 Americans killed on 9/11, in the meantime, the true alleged perpetrators are still running free.

Please don't tell me you are one of the ones that is stupid enough to believe none of these issues rise to the level of lying about a consentual sexual encounter.

As for Michael Moore, since the administration is unable to refute any of the allegations in his films, they have resorted to their typical strategy of character assasination, which you've obviously bought into also, as they did against John McCain in 2000, among others. Besides, I thought true conservatives didn't like draft dodgers.
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Old 02-10-06, 05:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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1 Bush's Buddy Tom Delay has been in congress for 11 terms (22 years). Whether or not he is Bush's friend or not, Delay has been in Office for a LONG time, and none of it is Bush's concern. Perhaps everyone from Texas should be indicted with him

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092800270.html

2. Scooter Libby.. Yep, he is just as bad as Martha Stewart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_%...nd_resignation

3. And don't forget Bush personally blew up the levees using the Army Corps of Engineers after targeting the Gulf Coast States with a secret Star Wars Hurricane generating machine, because Bush doesn't like Chocolate cities

4. There are just as many Justices claiming it was legal, than the democrats that say is is illegal. And it will be a while to determine wheter is is "Over-reaching" by the President, or if Politally motivated opponents to GWB destroyed a tool for domestic security.

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Legality of warrantless surveillance
The debate surrounding President Bush's authorization of warrantless surveillance is principally about the extent of the authority the executive branch derives from its constitutional and statutory authority to protect the nation from attack and its relation to restrictions imposed by FISA. The legal community is split; some lawyers believe the ultimate issue of legality is largely unknowable until the full details of the NSA surveillance operation are known; others, like Harold Koh, dean of Yale Law School, and Suzanne Spaulding, former general counsel for the Intelligence Committees of the House and Senate, argue that FISA clearly makes the wiretapping illegal[61]; and still others, like John Schmidt, former Associate Attorney General, [62] and Douglas Kmiec, chair of Pepperdine Law School, argue either that Congress implicitly authorized an exemption to FISA or that FISA cannot bind the president in a time of war; see "Other legal analysis" below.

Still others, including K.A. Taipale of the World Policy Institute and James Jay Carafano of the Heritage Foundation [63] and Philip Bobbitt of the University of Texas Law School [64], have suggested that, regardless of how one feels about this important Constitutional power issue, FISA itself is no longer adequate to deal with certain technology developments, particularly the transition from circuit-based communications to packet-based communications and needs to be amended. (See also, The Eavesdropping Debate We Should be Having [65]).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_war...ce_controversy

4 Haliburton: I have already provided a link describing that Haliburton's involvement and Democrat Waxman's pontificating on the subject. and in any case, isn't that why EVERY (real) company has accountants and auditors to verify contracts... hardly a conspiracy.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...n_overbilling/
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...0/222329.shtml

6. Bush's lies... hashed and rehashed... congress voted and gave him authority... they saw the same reports, yada yada yada

As for Michael Moore, try this...
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fift...enheit-911.htm

As for why the administration didn't refute it, why would they want to give that goober extra publicity

If you want to see character assassination look at that pathetic grandstanding at the funeral last week
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1303595.shtml
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Old 02-10-06, 09:09 PM   #18 (permalink)
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You guys need to give it a rest. It's obvious niether is going to convince the other.
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A note on hali, why is it that no one wanted to buy the contracts, the so called "unbelievably profitable" contracts in iraq???? ??? ???? ?????? ????


no one wanted to buy it cause it isn't that profitable, why would hali try and sell if they're making huge profits?

and they're capabilities, yeah anyone can drive a truck or provide food or fit pipes or provide legistics or wash clothes but tell me what amount of companies out there can do all those things on the scale of what a small country can't?
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