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Old 02-09-06, 10:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hurricane victims must pay to stay in 'FEMA City'

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an ABC Action News report 02/08/06

PUNTA GORDA - A year and a half after Hurricane Charley hit, many victims of the storm remain in FEMA trailers at taxpayers' expense. But the free ride from the federal government is about to come to an end.

FEMA says they plan to begin charging residents rent to stay in the trailers on Monday, and the agency is pushing all storm victims to be out on their own by September.

"If you're trying, if you're really working hard to find a place to live, we'll let you stay longer," FEMA's Denise Everhart said. "If you're not trying, chances are in September, you'll still be not trying. And we cannot continue to offer housing. FEMA is not a housing authority."
http://www.tampabaylive.com/stories/...0208fema.shtml


How long is long enough? 18 months and they still haven't moved on...
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Old 02-09-06, 11:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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[sarcasm]well, it all boils down to personal responsibility... These people knew a Hurricane was coming. They could obviously find work if they wanted to, We should cut all FEMA funding to the area, why waste taxpayer's money? These people chose to be where they are[/sarcasm]
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Old 02-09-06, 11:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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takes 18 months to collect insurance money if any?
takes 18 months to get a new apartment or a family member to move in with?
takes 18 months to find a job?

the destitute residents will still be collecting the gov't assistance that they would have been receiving prior, food stamps, welfare, whatever.

There is a country full of HUD homes available, FEMA is just saying go live in one of them, not here.

Their emergency was 18 months ago. FEMA has to make room for new emergencies.
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some people have no compassion for fellow man... it's really sad.
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"If you're trying, if you're really working hard to find a place to live, we'll let you stay longer," FEMA's Denise Everhart said. "If you're not trying, chances are in September, you'll still be not trying. And we cannot continue to offer housing. FEMA is not a housing authority."
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Old 02-09-06, 01:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-06, 01:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Its not about compassion for our fellow man. I don't think that was indicated at all. What was and will always be an issue is personal responsabilty and taking charge of ones own life. MY church has sent 3 misson trips to the Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana area of which I took part in two. My mother and lots of cajun cousins live in Louisiana. I have seen first hand many people working hard to get their lives back together and being very thankful for the help they have recieved and on the other hand I have seen many healthy able bodied people sitting on thier ass waiitng on a someone else to build them a house or find them shelter. Many of these people still in the FEMA village were destitute before the huricane, mainly due to lack or effort on thier part to make thier lives better and thru poor choices. So please don't try and make those of us that expect people to take responsabiltiy for their lives out to be insensitive or callous.......its just not true.
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they had 18 months of free housing. If they weren't working, they also had welfare and support as well as medicaid... for free.

How long does the free handouts last... well per gov't regs, they get 18 months. If they are trying and failing they could POSSIBLY stay until September (but not for free). The ones not trying will be evicted sooner. By Sept, everyone is out.

FEMA is not HUD.
FEMA is to deal with Emergencies.

It is all in the names. Federal EMERGENCY Managemant Agency. HOUSING and Urban Development.

I'm just amazed that ANYONE stayed in FEMA city for that long. I hated 6 months in the portables at High School
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Old 02-09-06, 03:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by radimus
takes 18 months to collect insurance money if any?
takes 18 months to get a new apartment or a family member to move in with?
takes 18 months to find a job?

the destitute residents will still be collecting the gov't assistance that they would have been receiving prior, food stamps, welfare, whatever.

There is a country full of HUD homes available, FEMA is just saying go live in one of them, not here.

Their emergency was 18 months ago. FEMA has to make room for new emergencies.
As a hurricane victim, the answer is YES to all three of your questions. My home was damaged (not destroyed) by hurricane Ivan in September 2004, I am still owed over $26000 in insurance, which I won't receive until the underlying insurance for the homeowner's association is settled (at last report still waiting for over $4000000 from flood). My home won't be habitable again until November of this year, at the earliest, and we were very fortunate in that we already had an excellent contractor in place to do some already planned renovations when the storm hit. Others, much less fortunate were left scrambling for scarce contractors and in many cases having settle for incompetent contractors of questionable integrity to just get stopgap repairs done to minimize the damage until permanent repairs could be accomplished. In addition, many victims were further victimized by the loss of their jobs, health insurance and potentially retirement, not to mention some personal items, the value of which can NEVER be replaced.

So, since you clearly know absolutely NOTHING about what you are posting, please keep you stupid,unwarranted, offensive, vicious attacks on those less fortunate than you to yourself.

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Old 02-09-06, 03:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Jimbo32 I know your frustrated and many of the comments hurt but bear in mind that they are not aimed at people like yourself. We know (and as a survivor of the HUGO devastaion, first hand expereince) that the situation was and is compounded by many factors and it is not easy to dig yourself out. But please admit that there is a percentage of the group affected that are sucking up resources that would be better spent on those that are trying to get thier lives back together such as yourself. Having seen the damage and devastaion I can not imagine the anguish you and others like you have endured. We contribute what and where we can to the red cross, the christian action groups and out of pocket whenever possible. Best regards.
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why is this an issue, they're gonna pay the rent with checks from the gov anyways.
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Wmrawls, I stand by my previous statements. While there may be a few that take advantage, as even radimus admitted, no one WANTS to live in FEMA hell, if they do because it's better than their previous lifestyle, they genuinely do need help. My frustration is much less a result of my hurricane experience than it is a result of the crooked, draft dodging, trust fund babys that are currently running this country with the same idiotic, uninformed attitudes radimus has expressed in this and other threads. Whatever few malingerers in FEMA hell cost is nothing to the billions Halliburton and other cronies of this crooked administration have robbed from the taxpayers.
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well considering that HUNDREDS were just evicted, and there are stull hundreds, if not thousands still living in hotels, it seem sto be quite a few.

As a side note regarding Haliburton, since you brought it up... the level of work that Haliburton is contracted for (as in Iraq and such) can only be managed by a tiny few orginizations in the world, like the Bin Laden Group (Osama's Family)... That would make wonderful headlines wouldn't it. There is a French Company as well whose name escapes me at the moment. On a second point, perhaps all the THOUSANDS of Americans that work for Haliburton would just love to know that their jobs were just outsourced to a French or Norwegian company.

Perhaps my idiotic, uninformed ideas don't mean much to you, but your socialist opinions don't do much for me, either. But that is just MY opinion.
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well considering that HUNDREDS were just evicted, and there are stull hundreds, if not thousands still living in hotels, it seem sto be quite a few.

As a side note regarding Haliburton, since you brought it up... the level of work that Haliburton is contracted for (as in Iraq and such) can only be managed by a tiny few orginizations in the world, like the Bin Laden Group (Osama's Family)... That would make wonderful headlines wouldn't it. There is a French Company as well whose name escapes me at the moment. On a second point, perhaps all the THOUSANDS of Americans that work for Haliburton would just love to know that their jobs were just outsourced to a French or Norwegian company.

Perhaps my idiotic, uninformed ideas don't mean much to you, but your socialist opinions don't do much for me, either. But that is just MY opinion.
Radimus, I have some nice ocean front property in arizona to sell you. You have obviously bought into every bit of the deception of this administration, more that 75% of which has already been disproved. Which services Haliburton is providing for 7+ billions of dollars requires unique skills? Driving fuel trucks? serving meals? pipefitting? Give me a break. The only reason they got this work over others is to enrich Dick Cheney, who is still certainly a significant shareholder in his "blind" trust, just as Bill Frist was still a significant shareholder in HCA until he ordered his "blind" trust to sell his shares just before an earnings disappointment. And we are to believe that Bill Frist never discussed HCA with his brother or any of his friends, who served on the board of HCA. If you want to bend over for these crooked A**holes, go for it, but don't drag the rest of us with you. I believe you will soon see impeachment proceedings against your buddies, as other Republicans are becoming increasingly horrified by the level of incompetence and corruptions this administration has exibited.
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Finally, Waxman objects to what he calls Halliburton's "troubling" performance record, suggesting that Halliburton would not have gotten the contract had Vice President Cheney not once headed the company. But Waxman's charges — and their echoes in outraged editorials — overlook Halliburton's extensive history of defense work for earlier administrations. Indeed, far from having a "troubling" past, one could argue that Halliburton was a favorite contractor of the Clinton Pentagon.
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That work received favorable notices throughout the Clinton administration. For example, Vice President Al Gore's National Performance Review mentioned Halliburton's performance in its Report on Reinventing the Department of Defense, issued in September 1996. In a section titled "Outsourcing of Logistics Allows Combat Troops to Stick to Basics," Gore's reinventing-government team favorably mentioned LOGCAP, the cost-plus-award system, and Brown & Root, which the report said provided "basic life support services — food, water, sanitation, shelter, and laundry; and the full realm of logistics services — transportation, electrical, hazardous materials collection and disposal, fuel delivery, airfield and seaport operations, and road maintenance."

In 2001, after the Bush administration came into office, the giant LOGCAP contract expired again and another competition was held. Once again, Halliburton won the contract, and it was under that arrangement that the Iraqi-oilfield analysis was done. As the record shows, Halliburton won big government contracts under the Clinton administration, and it won big government contracts under the Bush administration. The only difference between the two is that Henry Waxman is making allegations of favoritism in the Bush administration, while he appeared untroubled by the issue during the Clinton years.
Blah, blah, blah... more of the self styled "Impeach Bush" ranting that has populated the liberal media for years... everytime some newsstory breaks there is rantings of IMPEACH, IMPEACH... and it all pans out to nothing.

For 6 years + 2 more coming the liberal element in the country has tried to find something to bring down GWB... and when facts don't do it, they'll just invent stuff out of whole cloth lies and distortions. (read as anything from Hollywood, up to and including the trash from Michael Moore)

If there was one SHRED of actual impropreity to anything, there would have been proceedings at the drop of a hat... and the only thing that happens is the same old tried and true whining, complaining, and grandstanding that only impresses the media... but not a judge.
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