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License Plate Hunter 900
A local police department near Rochester, NY has a new device in operation. As the patrol car drives it automatically scans nearby license plates looking for those listed as stolen, unregistered, uninsured, etc. At $22k each it is expensive, but shows promise to screen the streets a lot better, safer & faster.
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Well damn, I guess I'm gonna have to fake my license plate. Don't want the feds to catch up with me after that rash of bank robberies in the late '90's...
I am generally very conservative, but this just smacks of illegal search. Unless the vehicle is visibly in violation of some ordinance, illeagally parked, damged tail light, etc. or is suspicious in some way, such a "search" should not be allowed.
I am generally very conservative, but this just smacks of illegal search. Unless the vehicle is visibly in violation of some ordinance, illeagally parked, damged tail light, etc. or is suspicious in some way, such a "search" should not be allowed.
This is America, not some police state.
Unless you have something wrong or expired on your license plate, theres nothing to worry about.
besides, if the plate is visible (as it is required to be) and the vehicle is on a public street, then there is no presumption of protection under 4th amendment or state search and seizure laws
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I am generally very conservative, but this just smacks of illegal search. Unless the vehicle is visibly in violation of some ordinance, illeagally parked, damged tail light, etc. or is suspicious in some way, such a "search" should not be allowed.
This is America, not some police state.
But your license plate is in plain sight and therefore can be legally checked at any moment. If you have nothing to hide, then there's nothing to worry about, so what are you hiding .
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I have NOTHING to hide, but I do object to being illegally searched. Just because I am walking down a public street, I am not consenting to being searched. Just because I am parked, LEGALLY, on a public street does not mean that I am consenting to being searched.
The ACCUSATION that I have something to hide, is an INTIMIDATION tactic. I will not be intimidated, nor will I consent to an illegal search. If am doing something to arrouse suspicsion, that is a different matter entirely.
Nazi's used such tactics on innocent people. The implication is that, If you don't agree with what the government is doing.... you better not be in public, you just might get "searched" and thrown in jail.
While I do not have any objections to most of what the current administration is doing, I do object to tactics like this one.
I am sensitive to the need for hightened security since 9/11, but what every American needs to remember is that once a freedom is given up in the name of security, it is extremely difficult to get it back once the "danger" has passed. This is where most dictatorships rise to power.
This may be a simplistic example, but it should help to drive my point. Following World War I, Germany was in very dire economic straights. The german people wound up following Hitler because he was a charismatic leader who got results. They continued to allow his growth because he got results. In a few short years Germany went from being a beaten little country to being a major world player. So what is wrong with that? if you do not know what was wrong with Nazi Germany running the world, you need to go back and take world history again.
I AM IN NO WAY comparing current America to Nazi Germany. I love America and I DO SUPPORT the current administration, but the erosion of the freedom to be in public without being "searched" just because you are in public is something that I will continue to deplore.
The implication that this will be used to "find" stolen, unregistered or uninsured vehicles is bogus. I or my family have had our cars hit by uninsured drivers on multiple occasions. When this was brought to the attention of the authorities, and I went beyond the average traffic cop to report, nothing was ever done about the fact that these drivers were violating the law. My experience has taken place over many years and in many states. So it not an isolated ignorance.
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Yup Greenbak, that's what these boards are for. An old friend of mine in Mexico City used to say "That's why they make chocolate AND vanilla".
While I see your arguments and agree with what you have said there are other concerns. One is that driving and licensing is a privilege, not a right. Second, the basic rules of the road rely on people doing the right thing, e.g., carrying insurance, not stealing cars, etc. My vision sees these problems as a much clearer and more present danger than the diminution of our 'basic' rights.
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