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Old 02-27-06, 10:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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electrical buzzing from video card when running Survivor

When I run Survivor on my Athlon 64 PC, the video card makes an electrical buzzing sound similar to a mercury arc lamp, though not as loud. I noticed it when I opened the case to check the temperatures. The card is passively cooled so that rules out a noisy fan.

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I have narrowed down the noise to some inductors on the video card. The system does complete a run of Survivor and the noise is not noticeable with the case closed, but is it a sign of electrical problems? Nothing on the card is overheating.
Interestingly, running Fear Factor gets the card even hotter, but it also completes and actually doesn't make noise!
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If I was VirtualBox, I could load my virtualization module into Hannah and boot up another kernel in the same address space.
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Old 02-28-06, 12:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I say try running it with a duel core Paris Hilton paired up with a Hillary Duff. After all, Duff's have quite a nice north bridge.

Your sound could also be from a William Hung sound card. Those are known to produce some strange sounds.
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Try and bypass the PCI bus to the video and use electron entanglement to transfer the data. Might sort out the problem.
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Try and bypass the PCI bus to the video
The video card is AGP.
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I say try running it with a duel core Paris Hilton paired up with a Hillary Duff. After all, Duff's have quite a nice north bridge.
The problem? I don't know if Linux can be compiled for Paris Hilton.

And to be clear, the noise is from the video card itself. I have heard that it's because the video card uses open coils instead of sealed coils, so the coil can vibrate.
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Originally Posted by A friend of mine who has a Linux kernel named after his girlfriend.
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How old is the card? You may want to check for a replacement just to make sure your card isn't defective.
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I know why and this is a serious problem, buy yourself an ATI card and all will be fine.:approve:
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I say try running it with a duel core Paris Hilton paired up with a Hillary Duff. After all, Duff's have quite a nice north bridge.

Your sound could also be from a William Hung sound card. Those are known to produce some strange sounds.
and you need to check the ashlee simpson chipset on your soundcard, and disable if possible, because we all know ashlee simpson chipsets dont make any sound.
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Have you updated all your drivers? Have you swapped it with a system running a Brittany CPU? Have you gone in the BIOS and disabled the CLE/T/US?
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I know why and this is a serious problem, buy yourself an ATI card and all will be fine.:approve:
I'm not that sure, but ATi and Debian are reported to not work together too well.
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How old is the card? You may want to check for a replacement just to make sure your card isn't defective.
It's said that if it works, the noise is just the vibration of the coils. But now I'm curious as to why Survivor causes the video card to buzz while Fear Factor doesn't, even though Fear Factor appears to put more load on the card.
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I recently installed kernel 2.6.15.4, and I used the latest official nVidia drivers. As for Britney, I don't think there'll be any difference since it's basically a high powered Athlon 64. I'll check the BIOS, but I really doubt it's the problem.

Oh, and I noticed that the noise is a little different with different resolutions and particularly refresh rates. It also changes depending on the scene. Why is that? (I'm guessing it has to do with the GPU running out of work for that frame and skipping clock cycles until the next frame.)
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hmmmm you said that video card was a keven lachy.. i dont think that that is comatible with a jessica simpson cpu anymore...STAR on a serius note i had the same problem with an old philips NINO palmtop computer. the video curcut made an anying buzzing sound.... it turend out to be that one of th ics was stuck.


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Originally Posted by star882
The video card is AGP.

The problem? I don't know if Linux can be compiled for Paris Hilton.

And to be clear, the noise is from the video card itself. I have heard that it's because the video card uses open coils instead of sealed coils, so the coil can vibrate.
why do i have the sudden urg to go pound my head against something very very hard and sharp?:scratch_h :scratch_h


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I have the solution, but it involves soldering, epoxy, a home-made reflow pan, and running with scissors.

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Hmmm, i can't imagine coils making noise like this (at least not at these levels of voltage/current). Have you looked closely at the capacitors? Make sure the metal bit on top isn't puffing out any. If it is, do something soon before it blows electrolytes all inside your case.

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Hmmm, i can't imagine coils making noise like this (at least not at these levels of voltage/current). Have you looked closely at the capacitors? Make sure the metal bit on top isn't puffing out any. If it is, do something soon before it blows electrolytes all inside your case.
It's the coil for sure. All the caps are fine. And yes, small coils can make sounds, just not as much as large coils. Even some of the Axims have been reported to make a slight buzz or whine. In fact, a friend of mine has a 6GB (!) flash drive that whines quite audibly when it is accessed.

I'm still curious as to why my video card buzzes only in certain situations, though. So far, I have noted that Survivor and some xscreensaver screensavers (most notably the 3D gears) cause the buzzing. The interesting part: with xscreensaver, I was often able to eliminate the noise by setting the (animation) delay to 0 (which causes some screensavers to run outrageously fast). But add delay and the noises usually begin.
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