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Old 05-02-06, 03:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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aliens sound [...]unwanted, thats not true
it is for the illegal ones!

Who in the hell can actually think if you break a law to enter a country it should support you while you and your people east away the bottom of the economy!


as a side note... I ALWAYS HATED BUSH!

...looks like I was right afterall...

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I disagree with you about the immigration issue, but more than agree with you about Bush! I'm ashamed to say that I used to support him!
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it is for the illegal ones!

Who in the hell can actually think if you break a law to enter a country it should support you while you and your people east away the bottom of the economy!
wow reese you almost sound like a conservative
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Actually we dislike Bush because he is a liar and took us to war when there was no need to do so. Their own Project For A New American Century spelled out the NeoCon dream of ruling the world. Not a conservative dream, a NeoCon dream. Step one was to establish permanent bases in the Middle East so that we have control of the oil supply.

The war was not about 9/11, in fact it simply opened up a recruiting and training ground for terrorists. Hussein was a bullwark against religious fanatics. The war was not about WMD because they knew that his weapons had been destroyed by the inspectors and that any left over were useless because chemical weapons degrade over a short period of time. And, since we gave him the precursors, we knew exactly what he had.

The war was not about freeing the Iraqi people since all US corporate interests care about is making money and we have replaced democracies with dictatorship whenever we felt like it.

Of course, it didn't hurt that corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer, which sort of explains why the gap between rich and poor (and middle class) in the US is exploding.

We also dislike Bush because he's an untreated alcoholic, because he's delusional, and because years of drinking and cocaine use have reduced his ability to see anything other than simplistic solutions to complex problems. Plus his entire government is hopelessly incompetent.

The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are. You hate Bush so much that you cannot fairly criticize the man or the conservative party on the basis of ideas.

You say he lied about WMD - prove it. The whole world came to the same conclusion - that Saddam had WMD. The debate was how to handle the situation. All your liberal friends in France and Germany never disputed that Saddam had WMD, just the means by which to tackle that issue.

If, as you say, we wanted control of the Middle East for oil - prove it. Show me where we have taken the Iraqi oil. Where is it? Who has it? I'm paying $3 per gallon, so it certainly isn't here.

You say corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer - then I assume that you believe that there are "excessive profits." What a load. The objective of any firm is to maximize shareholder wealth by increasing corporate value. I guess you, like you liberal buddies, want to institute a Socialists type system, such as exists in Europe, so we can also have 13% unemployment (instead of 4.7%) and a GDP of 0.4% (instead of 4.8%).

In addition, we all know that conservatives like me are really evil, greedy racists who don't care about minorities or the poor. Unlike you liberals who are all-feeling and all-knowing, who don't want to judge anyone because you might hurt their little feelings.

The reason we're doing such a poor job in Iraq is because people like you kick and scream everytime someone is accused of "torture" or violating some terrorist's "human rights". Well, from someone who spent six years in the Marines and is a Gulf War Veteran, I can tell you that the treatment the terrorists receive is much more humane that what an American would get. Yeah, I'm really upset that someone put a pair of dirty panties on some terrorist's head - sure beats getting it cut off in my opinion.

If we were fighting this war the way it should be fought, then we would be killing a hell of alot more terrorists. If he terrorists could see that America was united (instead of the democrats call Bush names and complaining about how bad everything is a wanting to pull the troops out) they would lose their motivation and we could win and get out of there a lot sooner.

Instead, the liberals would rather watch America lose at the cost of more American lives just so they could say that they beat Bush. They care more about being in power than the safety and security of the country (and, unfortunately, there is too many republicans in the same boat).

See, I am not so blinded by ideology that I cannot criticize my own party - ever hear of being honest and objective?

How pathetic. Putting your personal agenda in front of whats best for America, no matter how many people are put in danger.

United we stand, divided we fall.
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Originally Posted by cdandy91
The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are.

bla bla bla bla..........

How pathetic. Putting your personal agenda in front of whats best for America, no matter how many people are put in danger.

United we stand, divided we fall.

roflol



bushe's poll numbers thing explained. 1/3rd of the people hate bush 1/3rd are undecided and 1/3rd like him.

out of all those about half is democrats and the other half is republicans.

so given that half of the undecided lean towards liking him and the other half lean towards not liking him......

if bush's supports like him he can always have at least 33% approval

but it's because he has left his party that his numbers are so low. Bush can never get over 66% approval cause liberals just flat out hate him, they've always hated him.




Oh did you guys know that Iraq now has a fully functional government? it's been like two weeks. didn't hear that on the news did you?
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Originally Posted by DaveK
Actually we dislike Bush because he is a liar and took us to war when there was no need to do so. Their own Project For A New American Century spelled out the NeoCon dream of ruling the world. Not a conservative dream, a NeoCon dream. Step one was to establish permanent bases in the Middle East so that we have control of the oil supply.

The war was not about 9/11, in fact it simply opened up a recruiting and training ground for terrorists. Hussein was a bullwark against religious fanatics. The war was not about WMD because they knew that his weapons had been destroyed by the inspectors and that any left over were useless because chemical weapons degrade over a short period of time. And, since we gave him the precursors, we knew exactly what he had.

The war was not about freeing the Iraqi people since all US corporate interests care about is making money and we have replaced democracies with dictatorship whenever we felt like it.

Of course, it didn't hurt that corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer, which sort of explains why the gap between rich and poor (and middle class) in the US is exploding.

We also dislike Bush because he's an untreated alcoholic, because he's delusional, and because years of drinking and cocaine use have reduced his ability to see anything other than simplistic solutions to complex problems. Plus his entire government is hopelessly incompetent.

Yup summed up in a nutshell Good Job
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Originally Posted by cdandy91
The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are. You hate Bush so much that you cannot fairly criticize the man or the conservative party on the basis of ideas.

You say he lied about WMD - prove it. The whole world came to the same conclusion - that Saddam had WMD. The debate was how to handle the situation. All your liberal friends in France and Germany never disputed that Saddam had WMD, just the means by which to tackle that issue.

If, as you say, we wanted control of the Middle East for oil - prove it. Show me where we have taken the Iraqi oil. Where is it? Who has it? I'm paying $3 per gallon, so it certainly isn't here.

You say corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer - then I assume that you believe that there are "excessive profits." What a load. The objective of any firm is to maximize shareholder wealth by increasing corporate value. I guess you, like you liberal buddies, want to institute a Socialists type system, such as exists in Europe, so we can also have 13% unemployment (instead of 4.7%) and a GDP of 0.4% (instead of 4.8%).

In addition, we all know that conservatives like me are really evil, greedy racists who don't care about minorities or the poor. Unlike you liberals who are all-feeling and all-knowing, who don't want to judge anyone because you might hurt their little feelings.

The reason we're doing such a poor job in Iraq is because people like you kick and scream everytime someone is accused of "torture" or violating some terrorist's "human rights". Well, from someone who spent six years in the Marines and is a Gulf War Veteran, I can tell you that the treatment the terrorists receive is much more humane that what an American would get. Yeah, I'm really upset that someone put a pair of dirty panties on some terrorist's head - sure beats getting it cut off in my opinion.

If we were fighting this war the way it should be fought, then we would be killing a hell of alot more terrorists. If he terrorists could see that America was united (instead of the democrats call Bush names and complaining about how bad everything is a wanting to pull the troops out) they would lose their motivation and we could win and get out of there a lot sooner.

Instead, the liberals would rather watch America lose at the cost of more American lives just so they could say that they beat Bush. They care more about being in power than the safety and security of the country (and, unfortunately, there is too many republicans in the same boat).

See, I am not so blinded by ideology that I cannot criticize my own party - ever hear of being honest and objective?

How pathetic. Putting your personal agenda in front of whats best for America, no matter how many people are put in danger.

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Originally Posted by cdandy91
The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are. You hate Bush so much that you cannot fairly criticize the man or the conservative party on the basis of ideas.

You say he lied about WMD - prove it. The whole world came to the same conclusion - that Saddam had WMD. The debate was how to handle the situation. All your liberal friends in France and Germany never disputed that Saddam had WMD, just the means by which to tackle that issue.

If, as you say, we wanted control of the Middle East for oil - prove it. Show me where we have taken the Iraqi oil. Where is it? Who has it? I'm paying $3 per gallon, so it certainly isn't here.

You say corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer - then I assume that you believe that there are "excessive profits." What a load. The objective of any firm is to maximize shareholder wealth by increasing corporate value. I guess you, like you liberal buddies, want to institute a Socialists type system, such as exists in Europe, so we can also have 13% unemployment (instead of 4.7%) and a GDP of 0.4% (instead of 4.8%).

In addition, we all know that conservatives like me are really evil, greedy racists who don't care about minorities or the poor. Unlike you liberals who are all-feeling and all-knowing, who don't want to judge anyone because you might hurt their little feelings.

The reason we're doing such a poor job in Iraq is because people like you kick and scream everytime someone is accused of "torture" or violating some terrorist's "human rights". Well, from someone who spent six years in the Marines and is a Gulf War Veteran, I can tell you that the treatment the terrorists receive is much more humane that what an American would get. Yeah, I'm really upset that someone put a pair of dirty panties on some terrorist's head - sure beats getting it cut off in my opinion.

If we were fighting this war the way it should be fought, then we would be killing a hell of alot more terrorists. If he terrorists could see that America was united (instead of the democrats call Bush names and complaining about how bad everything is a wanting to pull the troops out) they would lose their motivation and we could win and get out of there a lot sooner.

Instead, the liberals would rather watch America lose at the cost of more American lives just so they could say that they beat Bush. They care more about being in power than the safety and security of the country (and, unfortunately, there is too many republicans in the same boat).

See, I am not so blinded by ideology that I cannot criticize my own party - ever hear of being honest and objective?

How pathetic. Putting your personal agenda in front of whats best for America, no matter how many people are put in danger.

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Originally Posted by cdandy91
The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are. You hate Bush so much that you cannot fairly criticize the man or the conservative party on the basis of ideas.

You say he lied about WMD - prove it. The whole world came to the same conclusion - that Saddam had WMD. The debate was how to handle the situation. All your liberal friends in France and Germany never disputed that Saddam had WMD, just the means by which to tackle that issue.

If, as you say, we wanted control of the Middle East for oil - prove it. Show me where we have taken the Iraqi oil. Where is it? Who has it? I'm paying $3 per gallon, so it certainly isn't here.

You say corporations are making a killing off the American taxpayer - then I assume that you believe that there are "excessive profits." What a load. The objective of any firm is to maximize shareholder wealth by increasing corporate value. I guess you, like you liberal buddies, want to institute a Socialists type system, such as exists in Europe, so we can also have 13% unemployment (instead of 4.7%) and a GDP of 0.4% (instead of 4.8%).

In addition, we all know that conservatives like me are really evil, greedy racists who don't care about minorities or the poor. Unlike you liberals who are all-feeling and all-knowing, who don't want to judge anyone because you might hurt their little feelings.

The reason we're doing such a poor job in Iraq is because people like you kick and scream everytime someone is accused of "torture" or violating some terrorist's "human rights". Well, from someone who spent six years in the Marines and is a Gulf War Veteran, I can tell you that the treatment the terrorists receive is much more humane that what an American would get. Yeah, I'm really upset that someone put a pair of dirty panties on some terrorist's head - sure beats getting it cut off in my opinion.

If we were fighting this war the way it should be fought, then we would be killing a hell of alot more terrorists. If he terrorists could see that America was united (instead of the democrats call Bush names and complaining about how bad everything is a wanting to pull the troops out) they would lose their motivation and we could win and get out of there a lot sooner.

Instead, the liberals would rather watch America lose at the cost of more American lives just so they could say that they beat Bush. They care more about being in power than the safety and security of the country (and, unfortunately, there is too many republicans in the same boat).

See, I am not so blinded by ideology that I cannot criticize my own party - ever hear of being honest and objective?

How pathetic. Putting your personal agenda in front of whats best for America, no matter how many people are put in danger.

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Where is this mountain of evidence? Please show me. Tell me where to go. Post a link, give me the name of a source/book/magazine - anything to back up your claims.

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The personal attacks do not solve problems and show how shallow and uneducated you really are. You hate Bush so much that you cannot fairly criticize the man or the conservative party on the basis of ideas.

You say he lied about WMD - prove it. The whole world came to the same conclusion - that Saddam had WMD. The debate was how to handle the situation. All your liberal friends in France and Germany never disputed that Saddam had WMD, just the means by which to tackle that issue...
There was no personal attack; that is the province of Karl Rove. I said that he lied and that he is an untreated alcholic and suffered brain damage from long term use of drugs and alcohol. All true.

Not everyone said that there were WMDs. In fact, the inspectors said that they had been destroyed. Any attempts at reason, such as by Joe Wilson, were met with massive coverups. Virtually all the news about WMDs came from one source, Chalabi, grooming to be the Shah of Iraq.

Did you research PNAC? Rumsfeld and Cheney were very clear about wanting to invade Iraq in the mid 90s. They weve very angry at Bush-1 for failing to remove Saddam, but there were reasons that he was left there; the main one being that there was no better alternative.

The reason that the NeoCons wanted to invade Iraq was to build permanent US bases so that we could control the Middle East. That is exactly what we are doing there. Permanent bases. We're not leaving. Their constitution has been written to allow foreign troops to maintain permanent bases. What is so difficult about this to understand?

When our government lies to the people about why we need to go to war, that is treason at the top. We invaded a country that did nothing to us, has never done anything to us, and never was going to do anything to us. That is a war crime.

At the very best we've turned over Iraq to the Committee for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. Well done.

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There was no personal attack; that is the province of Karl Rove. I said that he lied and that he is an untreated alcholic and suffered brain damage from long term use of drugs and alcohol. All true.
True?? Again, where is your evidence of brain damage? I would like you to refer me to some sort of proof, like a medical report. Or are you just basing this on you own medical expertise and experience?

[/QUOTE]Not everyone said that there were WMDs.[/QUOTE]

John Kerry did. So did Bill Clinton, Ted Kennedy and a whole list of democrats - in your reasoning, they must be liars too.

You know, you can be wrong without being a liar. There is a distinct difference.

[/QUOTE]The reason that the NeoCons wanted to invade Iraq was to build permanent US bases so that we could control the Middle East. That is exactly what we are doing there. Permanent bases. We're not leaving. Their constitution has been written to allow foreign troops to maintain permanent bases. What is so difficult about this to understand?[/QUOTE]

We still have bases in Germany, Japan and Italy - all enemies during WWII. I guess Roosevelt and Truman wanted control of Europe and Japan for their own political gain. Oh thats right, their democrats, so that couldn't be the case.

[/QUOTE]When our government lies to the people about why we need to go to war, that is treason at the top. We invaded a country that did nothing to us, has never done anything to us, and never was going to do anything to us. That is a war crime.[/QUOTE]

Lie?? WMD was not the only case for war. But liberals like to "overlook" that fact. Again, being wrong does not necissarily make one a liar. You still cannnot prove that Bush lied. Was he wrong - at this point in time the answer is yes. However, that may change with new documents being translated.

[/QUOTE]At the very best we've turned over Iraq to the Committee for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. Well done.[/QUOTE]

Very good. I would rather fight the ragheads in Iraq then have to deal with them in America? In fact, if we didn't have a bunch of panty-wearing sissy boys crying everytime we "tortured" some terrorists, we would likely be doing much better in this war. We should torture more of them, and make it know that we will do so if captured. This would deter people from fighting us - who cares what the world thinks about us. They don't like us anyways.
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