The Verizon techs told me that FIOS is upgrading the data rates soon. 5 -> 10 and 15 -> 20 price stays the same.
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I wish Verizon FIOS was available in my area. Right now I have Comcast and it's expensive, I'd like to switch to Verizon FIOS, but only their DSL is available here right now. I hope they add FIOS soon.
Google ADSL2+ and you'll find a ton of stuff. There is a whitepaper by Aware (I think) that has some good info, let me know if you can't find it and I'll dig it up.
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wow! you have 35mb down, howard? jee.. i have a measly 5mb down 3up..which is pretty fast for my area. it is the fastest my isp provides.
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I wish!! I have a slightly above average cable package. It's around 5Mb/s down and 512Kb/s up. I was just saying that the ability to deliver higher speeds over copper exists. Laying fibre in the ground is obscenely expensive, so for those that don't have fibre to the house already (and many new houses are having fibre run to them) it's not like copper is dead.
My ISP has started to offer 10Mb/s downstream connections so maybe that's an option at some stage.
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I wish!! I have a slightly above average cable package. It's around 5Mb/s down and 512Kb/s up. I was just saying that the ability to deliver higher speeds over copper exists. Laying fibre in the ground is obscenely expensive, so for those that don't have fibre to the house already (and many new houses are having fibre run to them) it's not like copper is dead.
My ISP has started to offer 10Mb/s downstream connections so maybe that's an option at some stage.
oh okay gottca.ther was a rumor going around that people in canda were getting 100mb down and 10up.
Don't get me wrong, it sounds potentially awesome, but ADSL2+ can do 25Mb/s downstream today. Which is the same as or better then FiOS.
Anyway - not trying to "diss" FiOS, but it's really not that revolutionary and I think perhaps they're overselling it a little :)
Yes, the Verizon site is full of marketing BS, however there is a BIG advantage to FiOS over any form of DSL.
DSL comes to your home over copper lines. FiOS is Fiber Optics. The fiber lines are capable of speeds that are only limited by the hardware on both ends (and the speed of light...but then we're talking about speed differences that a human can't even begin to perceive). Copper phone lines can only do so much. Down the road, it may not be called FiOS, but whatever internet service can be provided over those lines will make child's play of whatever is provided over the copper.
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Yes, the Verizon site is full of marketing BS, however there is a BIG advantage to FiOS over any form of DSL.
DSL comes to your home over copper lines. FiOS is Fiber Optics. The fiber lines are capable of speeds that are only limited by the hardware on both ends (and the speed of light...but then we're talking about speed differences that a human can't even begin to perceive). Copper phone lines can only do so much. Down the road, it may not be called FiOS, but whatever internet service can be provided over those lines will make child's play of whatever is provided over the copper.
When it comes to scalability they're not even in the same league, at least from a bandwidth perspective (although there certainly are both speed and bandwidth limitations, even on fibre), but today copper is meeting the needs of the vast majority of subscribers and as needs dictate we'll continue to see enhancements in delivery of services over copper. Look at the transition from 56k to ADSL to ADSL2+. ADSL2+ won't be the end of the line either. The subscriber base justifies the continued R&D into delivery of services over copper.
From a technical perspective, the speed on a FiOS service and on a DSL service are going to be about the same. The bandwidth on the FiOS service is higher, but that's something that will be addressed by ADSL2+.
Really what we're looking at is leading edge technology for deliver of data over copper to residences, vs. decades old tried and true fibre technology. All their marketing fluff about who FiOS uses the same technologies that the carriers use is really just fluff. Is fibre a better delivery mechanism than copper? Absolutely. Just like the Space Shuttle is better to launch satellites than a little $30 home made rocket. But in this particular case, for the delivery of residential services, there is not a huge benefit or advantage right now.
Having said that - I'd still rather live in an area that had fibre to the kerb or house :)
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