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Hey guys, I'm in need of some "American" help here ;)
Ok here it is. I am looking at a way to enter the US Army since I am 16. I am now 21, and am not really pleased with my current government job in Canada. If I remember correctly, I could enter the US Army with a green card right? I know you need to have a citizenship to become officer, but I dont mind right now. My question is to anyone in the USA that could lead me to an answer, as I know there seem to be a lot of people from the forces on this forum.
So, for a 21 years old Canadian with no family in the states, would it be possible?
And please don't ask me why I dont join my Mickey Mouse army....
Thanks guys!
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The U.S. currently recruits from among green-card holders—people with permanent resident status who aren't yet American citizens. In an effort to boost recruitment from such groups, Bush has signed an order reducing the time holders of green cards must wait before becoming citizens. Currently some 37,000 such people are in the military, out of a total of 1.4 million.
Do you have a Green Card yet?
If not are you prepared to get one?
Personally, I have no idea how long that process takes, but if you don't know, the recruiters should.
Faster, Easier Citizenship for Military Personnel: Both Sides of the Issue / Pol
From Jennifer & Peter Wipf,
Your Guide to Immigration Issues.
Some members of the military are not U.S. citizens, and thus are defending a country in which they don't have certain rights, including the right to vote for those who will ultimately send them to battle.
Latest Developments
This was a hot campaign issue back in 2004. Senator John Kerry (D-Mass) was George W. Bush's opponent in the presidential race at that time, and Bush stole some of Kerry's campaign thunder by signing into law some of the very changes Kerry was proposing as part of his election campaign strategy to attract minority votes. Even after his loss, Kerry continues to work on taking his proposals a step further.
Background
There are 60,000 immigrants in the U.S. military. They represent two percent of the total service personnel on active duty. About half are noncitizens, with 15,880 in the navy; of those, 5,046 are from the Philippines. More than 6,000 Marines are noncitizens, with the largest group, 1,452, from Mexico.
In 2004, President Bush signed an order allowing all active-duty immigrants serving as of Sept. 11, 2001, to apply for U.S. citizenship without waiting the usual three years, and without having to be physically present in the States in order to apply. Now, immigrants serving in the army, navy, marine corps, air force, coast guard, parts of the national guard and Selected Reserve of the Ready Reserve may be eligible to apply for citizenship if they can 1) Demonstrate good moral character/have no criminal record, 2) can speak English, 3) can demonstrate knowledge of U.S. government and history, and take an oath of allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. The applicant must also have served honorably during one year of conflict, have a green card, or have been present in the U.S. at time of enlistment. The application must be filed within six months of discharge.
A flood of inquiries from Mexicans and other foreigners prompted the military to state that it will only accept U.S. legal residents and citizens at this time. Beyond the societal benefits of citizenship, non-citizens in the military cannot become officers, and must leave the military after eight years of service.
One proponent of greater immigration privileges for military personnel is Democratic Rep. Martin Frost, whose territory includes the Dallas, Forth Worth and Arlington areas, with a large number of Mexican immigrant soldiers. He introduced a bill well before the Bush administration made its changes, which would make it easier for immigrants to get naturalized at U.S. military bases, embassies and consulates, rather than having to travel to do so.
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Enlistment into any branch of the US Military, by citizens of countries other than the United States is limited to those foreign nationals who are legally residing in the United States and possess an Immigration and Naturalization Service Alien Registration Card (INS Form I-151/551 - commonly known as a "Green Card"). Applicants must be between 17 and 35; meet the mental, moral, and physical standards for enlistment; and must speak, read and write English fluently.
The US Military branches cannot assist foreign nationals in obtaining admittance into the United States. Questions concerning immigration to the United States should be asked of the US Embassy. Only after immigration procedures are completed and an applicant is legally residing in the United States may an application for enlistment be accepted.
The US Government agency which is responsible for immigration and naturalization is the US Immigration and Naturalization Service on: http://www.ins.usdoj.gov/
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Hey guys, I'm in need of some "American" help here ;)
Ok here it is. I am looking at a way to enter the US Army since I am 16. I am now 21, and am not really pleased with my current government job in Canada. If I remember correctly, I could enter the US Army with a green card right? I know you need to have a citizenship to become officer, but I dont mind right now. My question is to anyone in the USA that could lead me to an answer, as I know there seem to be a lot of people from the forces on this forum.
So, for a 21 years old Canadian with no family in the states, would it be possible?
And please don't ask me why I dont join my Mickey Mouse army....
Thanks guys!
Great idea I am very happy that you would want to be part of the best military ever. Keep us noted if/when you enlist.
Hooah
PFC Seaman, United States Army
I dropped the request off at the Army, Marines, and Navy recruiters.
I didn't bother the Airforce guys... they looked too busy sipping tea.
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Great idea I am very happy that you would want to be part of the best military ever. Keep us noted if/when you enlist.
Hooah
PFC Seaman, United States Army
Ummm... did you get mixed up at the recruiter's office?
If I remember correctly, I could enter the US Army with a green card right? I know you need to have a citizenship to become officer, but I dont mind right now.
Just wanted to toss my 2 pennies in here ...
I'm Canadian. Born and raised, but I have Perm. residence status in the US.
You need permanent resident status to be accepted and you DO NOT have to give up your Canadian citizenship. Takes a while to get your perm. residence card if you don't have one, but overall its not too hard of a process.
There are some show stoppers depending on what MOS (job) you want ... you cannot get the required security clearance for PSYOP (Psychological Operations) and that sort of thing so a lot of the really cool jobs will be out of your reach, but Infantry, support, etc will be available.
Just don't let your Drill Sgt. find out in Basic that you're a Canadian ... mine never let that idea out of his and I paid for it daily ... but I lived through it and got my Honorable Discharge a couple years back from the Army.
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Good luck with your green card and efforts at US military. I've heard they need a few good men. :-)
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And please don't ask me why I dont join my Mickey Mouse army....
I take it that Harper's initiatives for the good ol' beaver corps hasn't swayed your opinion....
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Sorry to interfere, but why would one want to join onther nation's military force. I mean what if US finds evidence for biological weapons program in Canada and decides to "check it out"?
Sorry to interfere, but why would one want to join onther nation's military force. I mean what if US finds evidence for biological weapons program in Canada and decides to "check it out"?
Being a permanent resident of the US ... for me it made sense. I'm more American than I am Canadian (moved when I was a child), and so the opportunity to serve ones country is an honor.
If the US decided to go "visit" Canada - that would be a tough one. I guess in that case I would pull up my legal rights to citizenship of the UK
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... but I lived through it and got my Honorable Discharge a couple years back from the Army.
- that would be a tough one. I guess in that case I would pull up my legal rights to citizenship of the UK 
