isp snooping, whats fact, whats fiction..

aximbigfan · 06-21-06, 07:14 PM

lots of people are talking about isp snooping, but whats true? currenlty (as of wendsday june 21st, 06, 6:13pm) what isps (if any) are snooping? how could you tell if your isp is snooping? is there anyway of encripting out/in coming traffic?

chris

06-21-06, 07:30 PM

dont do anything wrong an you dont have to worry

Howard2k · 06-21-06, 08:00 PM

The question of "which ISPs are snooping" is almost irrelevant.

Let's say for example that your ISP (for arguments sake - Verizon) is not snooping. You're chatting with a guy in Canada - let's say that his ISP is Bell Canada.

Even if Verizon is not snooping, for protection of your traffic you'd have to be sure that Bell Canada was not snooping and that none of the ISPs in the middle were either.

And you can't source route your traffic, so if your ISP routes your traffic through MCI and MCI happen to be snooping then it's irrelevant whether Verizon or Bell Canada are snooping.

So like Mikeyp says - don't do anything bad and you have nothing to worry about.

If you ARE worried then look into the Internet architecture in more detail and figure out the risks :)

Tankman · 06-21-06, 09:01 PM

Who would care if an ISP was snooping? Doing something wrong?

I was told be "on guard" the government is watching your easy pass activity.
So what? Who would care?

Behave! No problem, let 'em watch every move!

jnev · 06-21-06, 09:12 PM

the point is not what you are doing on the internet.. that's beside the point. I don't care if all I do on the internet is pay taxes and surf aximsite, I don't want my ISP to know that. they have no business knowing what I'm doing on the internet, that's pure invasion of privacy IMO.

HOWEVER, ISP's will, increasingly now, be snooping everyone. and it's not just the ISP's. vista will be doing the same thing and sending info back to MS, and many programs already do this (when you play WoW, everything that's currently in your ram is sent back to them). it's the sad truth. as we get more and more digital the easier it becomes for companies and/or the government to snoop on our activities and know what we're doing with our computers. eventually it'll be one giant police state...

pettit · 06-21-06, 09:16 PM

Doesn't anyone care abouts his rights. It doesn't matter if your doing anything wrong or not, we have a right to privacy. The more rights we give up, the more they will take away. We must protect all of our rights or we will have them taken away little by little. When thay are gone we will never get them back.

06-21-06, 09:21 PM

As howard says, there are so many different companies connecting you between two locations that it would be almost impossible to check them all out.

jnev · 06-21-06, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by pettit

Doesn't anyone care abouts his rights. It doesn't matter if your doing anything wrong or not, we have a right to privacy. The more rights we give up, the more they will take away. We must protect all of our rights or we will have them taken away little by little. When thay are gone we will never get them back.

yup, I totally agree 100%. unless we do something about it, soon everything we do on our computers will be completely monitored to the point that if we step slightly out of line we'll get a phone call from MS or something warning us :realmad:

aximbigfan · 06-21-06, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by jnev

yup, I totally agree 100%. unless we do something about it, soon everything we do on our computers will be completely monitored to the point that if we step slightly out of line we'll get a phone call from MS or something warning us :realmad:

which is why i nuked wGAT as soon as i saw it on my hdd... especilly since the riaa is gaining strengh...WE MUST DESYTROY THE RIAA!!!!!!!!!! honisty, i find it hystarical when someone hacks the riaas website or, something really bad happens to them but i mean evry one laughs when the riaa has a magor tragity...dont they?

chris

jnev · 06-21-06, 09:45 PM

the riaa is just reducing our rights with music and getting rid of fair use.. that's not the major problem IMO. music aside, I think that privacy is even more important. what good is being able to do what we want with music if somebody is looking over our backs at what we're doing?

I use linux not only because structurally it's a much better OS, but also because I don't have any large corporations looking at what I'm doing. I'm not controlled by "big brother" telling me what I can and can't do with my computer.