I believe that global warming is happening, no arguement there.
but how do you explain that man is doing it?
yes follow the money like someone said, most of these scientists get grants from the government and the governments positition on this issue is that man is causing global warming, what do you think the scientists will say?
I believe that global warming is happening, no arguement there.
but how do you explain that man is doing it?
yes follow the money like someone said, most of these scientists get grants from the government and the governments positition on this issue is that man is causing global warming, what do you think the scientists will say?
So your argument is we can't trust scientists that may be funded by the government because they give the answers the government wants to here.
Yet (based on your other posts) we must trust the military/intelligence agencies who are funded by the government because they (despite the lack of peer review by the rest of the world) will always tell the truth... seems like an interesting position that you occupy there.
The BBC is never, has never been, and by law is not allowed to be a liberal website/broadcaster in the political sense of the word.
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The anti-global-warming-warning guys are only in it for the money (the global warming warning guys wants to restrict money a bit :crooked: . Clean air/water or less cancer and stuff ain't for free. Strangely enough.). I really don't know much about global warming, but it feels like we're killing the only planet we've got by polluting it.
Then again:
But pollution is like food. We ought to pollute the entire continent of Africa a bit more ( a nuclear dump place, perhaps?). Then they'll get fat and happy.
I love New York and Bangkok. My nose gets filled with black dust. It's good to know that it's only food. You can have it on a sandwich. One more think that I really like is the water (In NY) that taste like garbage.
It kinda feels like I'm drinking from a pool or some kind of creepy toilet.
At home I can drink water that taste like water (tap water. No need for bottled water there), and that's boring.
This one time I was on vacation in the mountains, and everything smelled fresh and clean. That's plain wrong.
Go, go, Mammon lovers! Let's burn some more rain forests! Wooohoo!
(CNSNews.com) - Former Vice President Al Gore warned of a "climate emergency" on Tuesday as he joined forces with political activists from MoveOn.org to promote a Hollywood disaster film that shows global warming creating an ice age and causing massive destruction.
The Day After Tomorrow , a 20th Century Fox production set for release on Memorial Day, stars Jake Gyllenhaal and Dennis Quaid. The $125-million movie will offer "a rare opportunity to have a national conversation about what truly should be seen as a global climate emergency," Gore told reporters.
"I hope this movie will provide many opportunities for in-depth conversations about what this issue is really all about," Gore added. Others participating in Tuesday's teleconference are also planning to use the timing of the film's release to attack the Bush administration's environmental policies.
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I thought it was an horror movie and the scientists said the blood and the guts where alright... didn't remebered who Gore is...
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As a fiscal conservative, I have to say that we need to address the problem of global warming ASAP. Repairs to New Orleans are going to cost American taxpayers billions. Imagine the entire East coast inundated. Developing alternative energy technologies (which we will do, anyway) and implementing them globally early will save countless dollars.
Ok, this is one topic, that very few really know about, and "global warming caused by our emissions" is only a small slice of the pie that is causing problems. Yep, there was a warming period in the '30s. Take a really good look at what is going around us and has been going on around us for years. Yes, satalite photos do show ice retreating, true.
Check this web site: http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/index_e.php
look for the map that shows how the magnetic north pole is moving, it is moving toward the true north pole. Also, notice the dates of when the speed of the magnetic north pole has speeded up. Look back into the weather history and you will find major impacts in weather that year. Such as snow blizards, weather patterns that moved quicker across the continents. Last year, increase in tropical storms and hurricanes.
We are over past due for a "flip" of the magnetic poles, oh before you say no way, do your investigation. You will find the last "flip" occured when the dinosours died out, with the ice age. The planet had "flips" every 200,000 years. We are way past due for a "lip".
I was born in the early 50's, and I remember when I was a kid, here in west central Ohio, the sun at mid summer, may have been directly over head. Now the sun is more to the north at mid summer. The tilt of the earth axis has changed. As all of this changes, we have longer exposure to the sun overhead, that increases our warmth in this part of the world.
Greenhouse gases helps in holding in more of the sun's rays, that also assists in keepin the heat in. We are assisting in our own problems, but it's not caused by man alone, nature is doing it's thing, we can't stop that.
As a fiscal conservative, I have to say that we need to address the problem of global warming ASAP. Repairs to New Orleans are going to cost American taxpayers billions. Imagine the entire East coast inundated. Developing alternative energy technologies (which we will do, anyway) and implementing them globally early will save countless dollars.
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Besides - We'll get healthier, the planet'll get healthier and vice versa.
(and some people probably thought of the hurricanes as god's punishment. Might've been (especially if global-warming-warning guys are correct))
Then again - We're not animals, so we don't need plants and animals.
As gods we can do pretty much whatever we want to do. Especially if we've got money (I'm joking because I want to inject a bit of nature in, and at the same time widen, everybodys discourse. Money is not everything. Our planet definitely is. You'll not get abducted by aliens. Sorry.)
.... Greenhouse gases helps in holding in more of the sun's rays, that also assists in keepin the heat in. We are assisting in our own problems, but it's not caused by man alone, nature is doing it's thing, we can't stop that.
We can do much to mitigate our own influence on world climate. If we act thoughtfully and quickly, how many years will we buy for future action? Another ten years only? But then we will have ten years more to address the problem, and knowledge tends to expand exponentially.
Incidentally, did you know that polution controls that limit particulate pollution and not greenhouse gases contributes to global warming? Particulate pollution tends to reflect radiant energy away from the Earth, while greenhouse gases trap heat. When we limited particulate pollution, it was a boon to health worldwide, but it eliminated a mitigating factor in the warming equation.
We are over past due for a "flip" of the magnetic poles, oh before you say no way, do your investigation. You will find the last "flip" occured when the dinosours died out, with the ice age. The planet had "flips" every 200,000 years. We are way past due for a "lip".
Now THAT's scary. Quit being so creepy. I'd like to believe that anything I do matters.
The fun part is that the only survivors will be alot of people like GWB (pole flip shelters) and some tibetans (because I like them). The earth will become like Earth in The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
What an excellent scenario:
Tribes of "accountants" wages war against enlightened philosophers, and since the philosophers never thought that any human could be stupid enough to start a war they'll lose.
A planet where the crappies people repopulates the human race.
I'm not a scientist, and I don't know whether man caused global warming or not. Hell, I can't even proove that global warming is real! Having said that, we live on this plannet, and each and everyone of us (including those rich oil tycoon's) have a responsibility to keep the Earth as clean as we can for future generations. Not doing so is not only selfish, but stupid. Ya, it costs money to clean up, but so what. Is the life of your children/grandchildren/and so on not important enough?
The future of humanity hinges on our actions today.
I'm not making any ties here because like I said, I'm no scientist, but think about this:
How many new uncurable diseases have affected humanity in large cities since the industrial age?
For example: My mother has Fibromyalgia. This is very prominent amoung women her age in our area... Something in the air perhaps?
Just think about it... We can't forsee the consequences of our actions today, so we have a duty to those that follow us to keep this place as clean as possible for them (and to not use all the resources either!)
The only problem is that the oil mafiosos doesn't care about tomorrow. If there will be another, cheaper, cleaner energy source then they'll try to squeeze out as much cash from oil as possible. Until it's too late (they will have their cash, and cash makes them gods (in their minds.)).
In my book greed equals stupidity. Not to mention ugliness.
Pretty funny! Just ran into this. Here ya go radimus
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Senate Committee Launches Taxpayer-Funded Misinformation Campaign About Gore Movie
Your tax dollars are being used to fund a misinformation campaign about Al Gore’s movie, An Inconvenient Truth.
Yesterday, the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works issued a press release headlined “AP Incorrectly Claims Scientists Praise Gore’s Movie.” It doesn’t substantiate the claim. The AP contacted 100 climate scientists, including noted “climate skeptics,” and of the 19 that had seen the movie, all commended its accuracy.
The Committee release faulted the AP for not cherry-picking the handful of scientists around the world who make a living questioning the scientific consensus on global warming. For example, an Australian scientist named Bob Carter told an obscure Canadian paper that Gore’s arguments are “so weak that they are pathetic.” How could the AP exclude this kind of incisive analysis?
The release is also full of misinformation about global warming science. Here are just three of the most blatant errors:
1. The research of Dr. Michael Mann is “now-discredited.” A report released last week by the National Academy of Sciences, created to Congress to provide scientific guidance, found Mann’s research – which concluded the warming in the last several decades is unprecedented in the last 1000 years — “has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence.”
2. “Scientific reports” concluded Mt. Kilimanjaro’s glacier is not disappearing due to global warming. The climate scientists at realclimate.org explain studies of Kilimanjaro “only support the role of precipitation in the initial stages of the retreat, up to the early 1900’s.” Moreover, “the Kilimanjaro glacier survived a 300 year African drought which occurred about 4000 years ago.” The most likely explanation for why it has almost completely disappeared this time is “anthropogenic (human-induced) climate change.”
3. A literature review in the journal Science which claimed consensus on global warming is “flat out incorrect.” The release relies on the analysis of Benny Peiser, which was egregiously flawed. Benny claimed that 34 abstracts “doubted or rejected” the scientific consensus. Actually, there wasn’t a single peer-reviewed abstract that opposed the scientific consensus.
Marc Morano and Matt Dempsey, who work for the committee, encourage you to contact them about the release.
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I thought it was an horror movie and the scientists said the blood and the guts where alright... didn't remebered who Gore is...
