I own both a Mac and a PC. The iMac is a little outdated, so I dual boot XP and a hacked version of OSX on my up to date PC. I use OSX for everything, except gaming. XP=Nintendo when you're dual booting OSX/XP.
As for the video... meh.
I agree. OSX is a better operating system and native windows xp (aka Wintendo) is best for gaming (but that's only because of Microsoft directX and aggressive marketing strategies), so you have got it right. A console + a Mac is probably the way to go right now. I doubt Vista will change that.
Linux is fun, but too "free". ;)
The PC architecture has generated a huge market, intensified research and lowered prices, though.
Macs are great machines, Unix under the hood and all the rest. I just find those ads of theirs real irritating ...
Originally Posted by Howard2k
I've been converted for a while ;)
I agree 100% - people use what they want to use and what's best for one person is not best for everyone. My point being though that the pricing gap HAS closed. It will always be possible to find a cheaper PC than a Mac. Just like it'll always be possible to find a cheaper Ford than BMW. :) But the gap is not what it used to be.
lol-- funny thing is that they are pretty much true. even though everyone says how windows doesnt have graphic desgin tool their wrong. i used windows movie maker for the first time and i was VERY impressed with it.
I've been using Apple computers since 1981....I have frustrations with both PC's and MAC's. In the end I just like the ease of use of OSX over having to keep XP in line. I guess it's just less effort for my lazy butt.
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Same here - some of them are superb, especially some deisgned with specific usage / purposes in mind. Then when you hit one that you really want to use more often, dual-boot with it ...
Originally Posted by PocketBrain
Linux is easier than you think, I am finding. I'm experimenting with various Live distributions right now.
Linux is easier than you think, I am finding. I'm experimenting with various Live distributions right now.
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Yeah, I know. :)
I dual-boot with Gentoo on this one and has got shell, ssh, ftpd, perl (just got a port scanner script working today!), apache with cgi, swi-prolog (solved the einstein riddle today, for instance) and some other stuff working on my Axim X51V.
I love unix/linux and derivatives! It's all logical! That's why I like OSX now. ;)
What I meant with 'linux is too "free"' is that there are too many choices (and sometimes configuration options), so the average user gets scared away.
K-/Ubuntu is a good initiative, but is still lacking.
Two desktop environments for the average user is a bit of an overkill, besides.
They could have done one with loads of configuration options.
I think it also has to do with what you are used to. You dont really know it, but you feel much more comfortable on what you are used to.
For example, I am much more comfortable on Windows as it is what I have been using for years, and I know how to treat it and exactly how to do things. OSX on the other hand for me is foreign and not as comfortable. I could spend time, learn it, and feel comfortable, but right now I am fine with Windows and I like what I see in Vista (i have been testing all the builds as they come out).
I have to agree with the 'whats best for you...' argument and the 'comfort' argument.
I work at a computer help center at MIT when im not in class and we support both systems...in the end usage determines what works best. Most engineers end up on windows because it supports matlab (intel macs dont yet) and solid modeling software etc much better than apple....but most admins and people in the humanities departments are on macs for their clean look and ease of use.
I personally prefer my PC (i WISH it had that expose feature though...so much better than alt-tab) but its mainly because ive always used it and I know its quirks and how to make them work for me. Mac is more idiot-proof, but as a result feels less customizable.
so MEH.
(BTW-I HATE those commercials though...they are so blatantly misleading.)
I have to agree with the 'whats best for you...' argument and the 'comfort' argument.
I work at a computer help center at MIT when im not in class and we support both systems...in the end usage determines what works best. Most engineers end up on windows because it supports matlab (intel macs dont yet) and solid modeling software etc much better than apple....but most admins and people in the humanities departments are on macs for their clean look and ease of use.
I personally prefer my PC (i WISH it had that expose feature though...so much better than alt-tab) but its mainly because ive always used it and I know its quirks and how to make them work for me. Mac is more idiot-proof, but as a result feels less customizable.
so MEH.
(BTW-I HATE those commercials though...they are so blatantly misleading.)
I still vote for Mac for the average user. Most people haven't got a clue about computer security, and so far Microsoft haven't helped. My Ph.D friend had to use Wintendo for Matlab et al support, but that didn't mean that he was satisfied with it (actually he enjoyed playing WoW on it, but he was more interested in Linux). :)
What are you studying at MIT?
Agreed. The average user should be on a mac, because the average user has no idea what they are doing. At the very least, the average user should not be using IE on a windows machine. Its truly ridiculous how many people bring in their machines to the computer helpdesk I work at with spyware, adware, viruses, trojans, etc...and they swear they did nothing to install them. Its amazing to me sometimes that people just dont understand some emails should not be opened, some links should not be clicked, some activeX controls not OKed, etc....but I grew up around computers, so they are second nature. To somebody who doesnt use one much, I can see how it would all be confusing.
I truly think the biggest problem with Macs is market share. PCs are by far the norm, so all the software etc is made for them. Although I guess if it was the other way around, all the viruses etc would also be written for macs, and maybe we'd be talking about how 'secure' windows is, when in fact it would just be that nobody exploits it! That would be weird...
It's not JUST the market share that makes Macs more secure.
Fundamentally the whole security model in the OS has just been built better. Windows is catching up of course, it's just a shame that it took billions of hours of wasted user time across the globe to happen.
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I just bought my first mac. I built my first computer about a year ago. I have to say that I am pretty impressed with what I see so far after having it for a week. It will be interesting to see vista in its final form....
lol-- funny thing is that they are pretty much true. even though everyone says how windows doesnt have graphic desgin tool their wrong. i used windows movie maker for the first time and i was VERY impressed with it.
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Yes, but have you tried idvd or imovie? No, i doubt you have ever used a mac.
I recently did get mad at apple, due to them realeasing a update that was still preety much a beta, and apple powerbook users have been experiencing problems everywhere. I for the first time had to reformate my mac. Other then that I have had no problems whatsoever. I wish i had a intel to use bootcamp for casual gaming but other than that, I love my powerbook, my brother likes his mini, and my mom loves her 3 month old imac.
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