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Old 07-12-06, 11:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Icon14 if you want to learn linux, but dont have a spare pc....

now is he time. ms virtual pc is now free.. right now i am alternating between ubuntu live! and windows xp. it does however, only have CONFIMED SUPPORT for windows xp pro and windows 2000. i have it working with windows xphome fine though. also, you really need to have atleast 1 gb of ram, 2gb of freehdd space and a 1.5 ghz proc. i am running it with:
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for those whp would liek to get started with linux i recommend ubuntu (link at bototm) it is a fairly easy os to learn.


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LINK: (ubuntu) www.ubuntu.com

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Old 07-13-06, 12:09 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If you want to go the other way (Windows inside Linux), try Bochs and QEMU.
http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
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If I was VirtualBox, I could load my virtualization module into Hannah and boot up another kernel in the same address space.
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Old 07-13-06, 12:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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list of oses i have tested and confimed to work:
DSL linux
ubuntu live! (just barly though)
ubuntu
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in dsl DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SWITCH TO JVM!!!!!!


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do you guys remember that linux that was released for free for a period of time, someone posted it here.

something like linewhich or something like that... I have been meaning to try that out but didn't have a spare puter.

anyways what is the best way to use that on this computer(not from booting, but a virtual program?)
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Originally Posted by JMJSelect
do you guys remember that linux that was released for free for a period of time, someone posted it here.

something like linewhich or something like that... I have been meaning to try that out but didn't have a spare puter.

anyways what is the best way to use that on this computer(not from booting, but a virtual program?)
i beelive you are tallking about sgiggleoss aka unaffocal linspire.
sorry about how messy this post is. i am posting from dsl linux in vm aaand thhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeee kkkkeeeyyyyboard repeats the letter i type about a bizzilon times..


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Old 07-13-06, 12:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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You don't need a spare computer to run linux. You can run one of those live cd/dvd distro or if you want install to separate partition or hard drive and have a boot loader that lets you choose if you want to run linux or windows.
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Originally Posted by Victor516
You don't need a spare computer to run linux. You can run one of those live cd/dvd distro or if you want install to separate partition or hard drive and have a boot loader that lets you choose if you want to run linux or windows.
what i meant was, if you dont want to repartion your hdd, or do anything that could harm a main configuration.


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Old 07-13-06, 12:43 AM   #8 (permalink)
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what i meant was, if you dont want to repartion your hdd, or do anything that could harm a main configuration.


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Oh I see what you mean.

The live cd/dvd are also a great way to try out linux.
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Originally Posted by Victor516
Oh I see what you mean.

The live cd/dvd are also a great way to try out linux.
yeah, that how i first got into it. i *think* the first distro i tried was ubuntu live! the only thing that i dont like about live cds is the existance of phisycal media. i hate having to burn the distro to a disk then puting it in the drive only to find that the disk was scatched or something. i like vms much better. i only wish tha someone made a full computer sim, complete with real life situations (componet falure, temps, overclock sim, upgrade engine, ect. that would be great for me becouse iconstantly try very riskiy things with my boxes and i am sick of things going bad.


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VMs are great, but you need tons of RAM for them not to *crawl* in a lot of ways - like that latency with keystrokes you're talking about. Plus video drivers etc tend to be a pain in the arse. Live distros are cool and usually the HDD install and using the Linux boot-loader works fine - just keep Partition Magic or something around for the occasional 'Uh-oh' moment ...

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yeah, that how i first got into it. i *think* the first distro i tried was ubuntu live! the only thing that i dont like about live cds is the existance of phisycal media. i hate having to burn the distro to a disk then puting it in the drive only to find that the disk was scatched or something. i like vms much better. i only wish tha someone made a full computer sim, complete with real life situations (componet falure, temps, overclock sim, upgrade engine, ect. that would be great for me becouse iconstantly try very riskiy things with my boxes and i am sick of things going bad.


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Originally Posted by star882
If you want to go the other way (Windows inside Linux), try Bochs and QEMU.
http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
why not just use vmware? I use it all the time whenever I need windows to do anything. I allocated 256mb of ram for it to use and it runs fairly well...
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If all else fails ... there's always Parallels for Intel Macs :approve: Fastest boot time for any VM I've seen yet. Ok ... not including super expensive commercial setups like ESX server, but XP SP2 on OSX in Parallels is worlds faster than MSVPC could ever do. Vitrual PC is decent, but slow. I used it for a couple of years for various things and it saved me a ton of work in some cases... I'm really glad they decided to let it go for free. Sort of makes me wonder why they are doing it though??!!
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VPC decent but slow = exactly - as in, very slow ...

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If all else fails ... there's always Parallels for Intel Macs :approve: Fastest boot time for any VM I've seen yet. Ok ... not including super expensive commercial setups like ESX server, but XP SP2 on OSX in Parallels is worlds faster than MSVPC could ever do. Vitrual PC is decent, but slow. I used it for a couple of years for various things and it saved me a ton of work in some cases... I'm really glad they decided to let it go for free. Sort of makes me wonder why they are doing it though??!!
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As someone pointed out - Vmware player also is free, and it's the original virtual machine software for windows (they created the market microsoft is trying to steal right now). It's really, really good.
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