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Old 07-19-06, 03:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You are so wrong.

The towers had a huge economical impact on us. The whitehouse and pentagon also = huge impact on the way the counrty runs.

Stopping moral doesn't stop the country, they know this.

Something like the hoover dam or the Goldengate bridge make alot more sense.

Them hiting anything is a moral crusher, they aren't gonna "waste their shot" on something as trivial as a corroded statue.
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Old 07-19-06, 03:22 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I thnk that is your problem... If you consider the SoL to be a 'corroded statue', then you feel it has no value. I bet it has more value to others
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Old 07-19-06, 03:27 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by radimus
I'm telling you, the press coverage on the Statue would be HUGE... the american symbol of freedom and focus of hopeful immigrants, they would get such a pop.

Bingo :approve:

It's not all about the body count ... the message needs to be heard, I'm sure they don't care how it gets heard.
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Old 07-19-06, 03:28 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Corroded was the wrong word, Tarnished is better.

Anyway, if they did hit it it would piss alot of people off, but that is the extent of the damage.
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Old 07-19-06, 03:40 PM   #20 (permalink)
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When someone decides to take their own life, they usually do not take others with them. When someone decides to blow themselves up in a crowded place, it's not a suicide, it's a homicide.
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Old 07-19-06, 03:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ralarosa
... When someone decides to blow themselves up in a crowded place, it's not a suicide ...
Suicide : the act of killing yourself.
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Old 07-19-06, 04:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Homocide: the Act of killing others, see murder.

viewed as cowardice, do the act and fear the punishment.
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Old 07-19-06, 08:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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regardless of what you want to call it, we all know the intentions behind a suicide bomber. kill as many people as possible + 1.
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Old 07-20-06, 11:49 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by reese
Anyway, if they did hit it it would piss alot of people off, but that is the extent of the damage.
Reese, your forgetting that the previous acts weren't traditional "Acts of War" in the literal sense. In war, targets are chosen for the strategic purposes. i.e. factories, railways, bridges, military bases, etc.

The difference here is that these aren't soldiers we are dealing with. They are terrorists. Thus, by definition of their name, their main goal isn't necessarily to destroy targets for their value. But, rather, for their level of terroristic impact.

Example: The twin towers were chosen because they represent the financial engine of the US economy and because it represents the American economy. It is itself a financial symbol. So, if they are targeted, then the stock market would collapse (what they hoped for) and America would crumble. And, the result of that would not only be economic hardship. And, they hoped, would cause us to fear them. Which did not happen, or even come close to happening. Yes, there was a recession (which is different than a depression), but America stood up and said "that ain't stoppin' us!!!". The fact that they managed to kill 3,000 people was, in their view, secondary to the real goal.

Example: One of the targets was the White House. This wasn't chosen because it houses thousands of people. But, rather, because it is a symbol of the US. And, if they can take that out, it would terrorize a lot of American. Thus, being terrorist, their goal would have been acheived.

Example: The same hold for the Pentagon. Again, as mentioned above, the Pentagon symbolizes the military power of the US. Take it out, and you strike fear in to Americans.

So, it is entirely possible that the Statue of Liberty could possibly be a target. But, not because of the number of people, but for it's symbolic value.

I personally don't think it would work, however. I think it would just tick-off a lot of Americans, and end up doing the opposite of what their goal is.
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Old 07-20-06, 12:50 PM   #25 (permalink)
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While you are entitled to your opinion, mine is that you are dead wrong. Thw WTC we targeted because of all the chaos it would cause by destroying them (economy, etc)

The whitehouse and pentagon were to set back the government and defenses etc.

From a terrorist's standpoint the statue of liberty would be a stupid target.
(If they wanted to hit it they could have, they chose not to)
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It'll be a world war once we shoot down a N. Korean missile headed for Hawaii.



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Old 07-20-06, 06:36 PM   #27 (permalink)
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naa.. it will be a butt kicking fest.

It'll be a WW if China jumps in.

No NATION outside of China will stand up to the US directly in a shooting war. They might talk a lot of crap to the media and to the UN, but no nation will shoot at the US on purpose, outside of the posibility of China.

We could destroy the economy of any nation inside of 3 days, and no country wants that.


Nutbags and terrorists are a different story
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Originally Posted by PocketBrain
It'll be a world war once we shoot down a N. Korean missile headed for Hawaii.



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actually I think it'll be a world war once syria or iran sets off wmds(chemical or nuclear) in isreal. isreal would then launch it's nukes, then all hell will break loose.
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Originally Posted by reese
While you are entitled to your opinion, mine is that you are dead wrong. Thw WTC we targeted because of all the chaos it would cause by destroying them (economy, etc)

The whitehouse and pentagon were to set back the government and defenses etc.

From a terrorist's standpoint the statue of liberty would be a stupid target.
(If they wanted to hit it they could have, they chose not to)
I have to agree w/Reese. This makes sense. They didn't attack these targets for any kind of symbology, but to destabilize our country politically, financially and militarily.

We have to stop acting defensively as a country. We are merely reacting to the terrorist threats. We hear reports that our country stopped a threat here and there and that's great, but we are playing defense only.

We must put pressure on the countries that support terrorism. And I mean serious pressure. We tell them they must stop supporting them immediately. If we find evidence that they're supporting terrorism after our warning, even if it's the next day, then we take them over. We give them no second chance. No negotiation.

If nobody will support terrorism for fear of retribution by the US and our allies, then it will severly hamper the efforts of the terrorists.
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Originally Posted by stevenator65
We must put pressure on the countries that support terrorism. And I mean serious pressure. We tell them they must stop supporting them immediately. If we find evidence that they're supporting terrorism after our warning, even if it's the next day, then we take them over. We give them no second chance. No negotiation.
now put that logic behind the war in iraq...
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