reese

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2797

Quote:

"[The] Five-year campaign plan [includes]... a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan" (Pentagon official quoted by General Wesley Clark)

I knew he had an agenda from the beginning!

saminegm

Unbelievable.

Pebu

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything, especially since I haven't read the article, BUT!! Do you notice the ellipses (...) in that sentance? Those are ways that writers edit quotes to sway the readers in their directions. It can be used both ways... In english lit I've used the same quote to argue both points. So my immediate thinking is that the author is trying to bash the current administration..

Ok, now I've read the whole article and it still seems like a stretch. What the author is doing is called paraphrasing and could even be called heresay. It may have some sort of validity buried in the story, but I wouldn't take it straight at face value... I believe that the author may have misunderstood the General.

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reese

here is the full quote:

"As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia and Sudan. "

It was paraphrased as it came from a book

Pebu

Well then it was quoted from the book, but the author of the book paraphrased the general.

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reese

Originally Posted by Pebu

..but the author of the book paraphrased the general.

You mean the author of the book was the general?

Re-read the quote my friend.

Pebu

I'm sorry, in that case it sounds like the general is paraphrasing the senior military staff officer. At any rate, that's alot of paraphrasing and alot of chance for misunderstanding.

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reese

I highly doubt a 4 star general misunderstood...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Pebu

You have to take it into context. They were chatting... It wasn't a press conference or a briefing or anything. Also, the general isn't the only one that may have mis-understood. You're quoting somebody ("A Concerned Citizen") who quoted a paraphrase in a book written by somebody (General Wesley Clark) who may or may not have understood the senior military staff officer. The general may have misunderstood the staff officer, he may have paraphrased bad, the concerned citizen may have misunderstood the paraphrase and HE may have quoted badly and finally, you may be misunderstanding what the concerned citizen wrote... I'm just saying that's alot of chance for miscommunication. Also, they have a name for that. It's called "gossip". I have a hard time believing that you think fox is out to get for that thing, yet you'll take stock in this story, which is essentially gossip.

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reese

Well, seeing that I showed you the direct quote from the General's book... The "concerned cititzen" is removed from the equation...

So you have an official telling a General who wrote it in a book... Not too much room for misinterpretation.

I think you are stretching to discredit this.

JMJSelect

yeah and if you look at those countries they have ties to terrorists organizations.

this is the war on islamo fascists? is it not? wouldn't it make sense to go after the countries that assist these islamic terrorists?

so whats the big point?

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Let's kill them all !!!!

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JMJSelect

HA

I like that, kill them all

then your sig finishes it off.

that's great.

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Originally Posted by reese

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2797 I knew he had an agenda from the beginning!

Ex General Clark is a political hack. Everything he says reflects his agenda. Watch him. He's easy to figure out.

I have to be honest. It would ba a good plan as a way to calm down middle eastern terrorism. All of the so called targets are the bad boys on the block. The Middle East would be a better place without them.

I don't think Libya's a threat anymore. Since they cleaned up their act, things have been looking up for them economically. If the rest of the countries on list followed suit, their oppressed peoples would maybe have a chance at life.

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... And where's Afghanistan? Hmmmm? This sounds like a "Tin foil hat" story. It may be based on the perception that Bush started a war to get reelected; you wouldn't change horses mid-stream! (reference to Wag the Dog)




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