Battle of the Broads - Page 3

Greenbak · 08-04-06, 12:55 PM

While I doubt there is much realism it this senario, It has to be Condi.

Time will tell. There is still plenty of time for things to changes before the next presidential election. For good or ill. and multiple times.

08-04-06, 01:08 PM

I'd vote with my feet - emmigrate.

**radimus** · 08-04-06, 01:14 PM

We have a few issues here that need to be discerned.

Do you care if a (any similarly qualified) woman is running/elected US president?
Do you care if the candidate is black/hispanic/whatever non-caucasian?

Do you hate Condi for reasons other than the items above?
Do you hate Hillary for reasons other than the items above?

What makes these candidates any better/worse than any other douchbag or crap sandwich that would otherwise run for office?

reese · 08-04-06, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by radimus

We have a few issues here that need to be discerned.

Do you care if a (any similarly qualified) woman is running/elected US president?
Do you care if the candidate is black/hispanic/whatever non-caucasian?

No. As long as they were born here.

Originally Posted by radimus

Do you hate Condi for reasons other than the items above?
Do you hate Hillary for reasons other than the items above?

I don't hate Condi, but I would never vote for her.
Typically the republicans are for big business (which I am not) so she doesn't represent my interests. Also, I doubt the manequins ability to cut its own strings.

Originally Posted by radimus

What makes these candidates any better/worse than any other douchbag or crap sandwich that would otherwise run for office?

Well, they both have some experience in politics.

JMJSelect · 08-04-06, 10:48 PM

@reese: what makes hitlary evil?

say's a socialist. hell bent on the white house, no matter what. she's devoted herself to be in that house again regardless of what she leaves in her wake. that in itself is apart of her evil.

evil, have you heard what former interns have said about hitlary when she was in the house before? they said that if they walked by her they would have to bow their heads and not make eye contact with her, if not then they would be bitched out. and for what reason? for looking at her.

now her socialized healthcare thing. and the "no one can ruin our healthcare as much as bush".

I think it's in europe where they are trying to get their wait time for cat scans from a sluggish 6-8 weeks to just 5 weeks. right now in our messed up health care system, it's at the most 1-2-3 days.

people regularly die up in canada waiting for heart surgery(which is 1+ years), here in our messed up health care system, max 1 week waiting period.

yeah it sounds nice, everyone pays for healthcare so that everyone can have the same care, but in reality it takes $$$ and ALOT of it. so to keep costs down(like what canada does) they put a waiting list on it to keep costs down. that's why so many canadians come to america and pay out of pocket for a variety of medical care because that's how much better our messed up healthcare is from socialized healthcare. oh and hitlary also wants to make it illegal for any american to go out of country to get medical care(which is a new trend, outsourced healthcare)

mcrosco · 08-04-06, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by reese

I'm voting Hillary in this one. The administration needs a COMPLETE overhaul.

@ Radimus. I don't think you can blame Clinton for (all) the terrorism problems we have today.

All of our presidents can share some of the blame, but the majority would have to go to Carter and Clinton.

JMJSelect · 08-05-06, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by mcrosco

All of our presidents can share some of the blame, but the majority would have to go to Carter and Clinton.

carter basically created islamo facists that we know today, bush1 did something, clinton was attacked(and didn't ever visit the 1st trade center bombing, and made sure that it was never mentioned in his radio announcements) and did nothing, bush2 is doing something.

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so I think it's safe to say that hypothetically if hitlary ran against rice, rice would win by a LANDSLIDE(on aximsite that is)

Pocketbrain · 08-05-06, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by reese

a) Nobody could mess up healthcare as much as the current administration has done... Have you seen medicare? Socialized healthcare would be great for this country IMO, but I can see why you would think otherwise.

b) She's not the only senator to do this (Santorum for example)

I don't live in NY, so I can't fairly answer the last one.

Originally Posted by Hillary Clinton

I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."

^^^ Love that quote!

Yeah, it's a good quote.
And any senator who does that is a carpetbagger, pure and simple. Hillary's interests lie in placating the "least common denominator" and not in making America work.

08-05-06, 11:47 AM

Condi :approve:

08-05-06, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by reese

I'm voting Hillary in this one. The administration needs a COMPLETE overhaul.

@ Radimus. I don't think you can blame Clinton for (all) the terrorism problems we have today.

Though I dont' necessarily disagree about an overhaul, I'm not sure a Billary, I mean Hillary, overhaul would be any better.

**radimus** · 08-05-06, 02:20 PM

I think this poll is pretty much taken a sufficient sample to say that Condi would be more popular (at least with the people that voted)

We need a more granular poll for some real data mining

Next presidential election, would you vote for (y/n) for each:
1. dem/rep/ind/other (regardless of candidate)
2. A female candidate
3. a non-rich White guy
4. a non-White guy
5. Older (60+)
6. Younger (< 55)
7. fiscal conservative
8. hawk (war monger for the cali types)
9. social liberal
10 fiscal liberal

dgoldring · 08-05-06, 03:04 PM

Radimus: Those are some good questions. Although I am a registered Republican, I rarely vote exclusively by party lines (I won't say I have never done it, but I try to be more informed than that). Typically, I tend to be moire of a centrist. I favor a fiscal conervative, but lean more liverally on social issues. Especially bedroom issues (gay marriage, morning after pill). That being said, I prefer (for the most part) a hawk to a dove. I want someone who is going to fight back if we are attacked, not throw a few bombs and missiles at the problem and call it a job well done.

I don't really care about age, sex, skin color, that kind of thing. I've known enough people and enough high powered people to tell you that none of that makes a difference when it comes to leadership ability.

Doug

el12 · 08-05-06, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Furukawa

I'd vote with my feet - emmigrate.

I will move out with you,
What about canada

Bagelsnbrew · 08-05-06, 10:47 PM

reese, you have to remember-

-The entire security issue we face today was created by the Clinton, with the assistance of the Carter.

-All presidential economic policy takes 8-10 years to see results, unless it's a republican president in which case it's immediate.

-Raising expenditures while lowering revenues is the best way to run a company...or a country.

-Any and all inaction by congress is due exclusively to the minority democratic obstructionists.

-No matter the length of military service, number of metals or physical sacrifice, a democrat running for office is always a coward.

And most of all

-Bush can never be faulted because he's a god fearing Christian!

Bagelsnbrew · 08-05-06, 10:49 PM

Oh, and I'd vote for neither but if I were forced , it would have to be Clinton. Condi like all her administration cohorts should be tricked into a rocket and sent to monster planet just like Godzilla.