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Old 10-28-06, 10:32 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I always seem to find the highways with the 55 limits!!

I've seen one or two with 65. But 55 always seems to me to be the magic number. Is that a NY State thing?
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Old 10-28-06, 10:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I've found that in many states, the state highway speeds are 55. However, the interstate highways are 65 or 70, except in metropolitan area where the speed limit are usually reduced to 55.
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Old 10-28-06, 01:03 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I guess I'm in the minority here. I am all for the speed cameras and the traffic light cameras.

Just last week, I came very close to getting broad-sided by a jerk who ran a red light. And I don't mean it had just turned red while he was in the intersection; my light was green for a good 2 to 3 seconds before he came flying through! :realmad: I was already going when I saw him out of the corner of my eye and I stopped just in time so that he missed the front of my car by about 6 inches.

Unfortunately, there are too many people on the road who have no concern for anyone else. The Highway Patrol can't be everywhere, so I definitely support the use of cameras.
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Old 10-28-06, 01:38 PM   #19 (permalink)
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No entirely a minority, I wholeheartedly support them. As I suggsted earlier, if you don't break the law by speeding and obey traffic lights, they're not a problem, and encourage others to be equally law abiding.
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Old 10-28-06, 02:29 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I disagree, I dont like them why? There are several reasons.

1) Dangerous drivers need to be taken off the road NOW , not mailed a ticket.
2) Recless Drivers need to be taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
3) Drunk drivers need to taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
4) Police need to be out observing traffic and watching for crime, a camera is not a subsitute for a policeman.
5) Having police in an area reduces crime because the criminals know the officer can see more than just the intersection.
6) Cammera's can not make judgement calls. Am I speeding to get distance between from somebody, who is maybe driving eratically, durnk.
7) The real question is am I driving my vehicle in an unsafe manner, a cammera can not tell.
8) Cities set up speed traps for money, not safety. I am against giving them the capability to completely audimate the process and eliminate the Police officer who could at least be usefull.
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Old 10-28-06, 03:28 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by benots4
I disagree, I dont like them why? There are several reasons.

1) Dangerous drivers need to be taken off the road NOW , not mailed a ticket.
2) Recless Drivers need to be taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
3) Drunk drivers need to taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
4) Police need to be out observing traffic and watching for crime, a camera is not a subsitute for a policeman.
5) Having police in an area reduces crime because the criminals know the officer can see more than just the intersection.
You sure can't beat the real thing!


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6) Cammera's can not make judgement calls. Am I speeding to get distance between from somebody, who is maybe driving eratically, durnk.
Not sure I agreee with you justification here. Should it matter you were speeding for this reason. If that's the case, you will never obey the speed limit in traffic because there is always someboy in front of you or behind you. I think you best option if you feel you are in danger would be to pull over and let the idiot go around.


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7) The real question is am I driving my vehicle in an unsafe manner, a cammera can not tell.
Speed limits are normally set with safety in mind. If you are speeding, then I suppose you would be operating in an unsafe manner.


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8) Cities set up speed traps for money, not safety. I am against giving them the capability to completely audimate the process and eliminate the Police officer who could at least be usefull.
I couldn't agree with you more! I think many cities are using cameras as a means to generate revenue
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Originally Posted by diducmeb4
I think many cities are using cameras as a means to generate revenue
Yep, works too, for all the plonkers that break the law. Don't break it, and the council don't get £ (or $ is some peoples case!).
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Old 10-28-06, 04:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Remember passing zones, I realise most have been done away with but there are still a few around. Also. you staying behind somebody driving eratically is not always such a good idea, you could get rear ended. Anyway, the details of the individual at the time are exactly what a cammera can not determine.
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Old 10-29-06, 10:30 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by benots4
I disagree, I dont like them why? There are several reasons.

1) Dangerous drivers need to be taken off the road NOW , not mailed a ticket.
2) Recless Drivers need to be taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
3) Drunk drivers need to taken off the road NOW not mailed a ticket.
4) Police need to be out observing traffic and watching for crime, a camera is not a subsitute for a policeman.
5) Having police in an area reduces crime because the criminals know the officer can see more than just the intersection.
I agree with all of the above 100%. Now, let's see; who's taxes shall we raise to pay for all of the extra police officers that it will take for the above to happen? If it really came down to a choice between cameras and more officers on the streets, I would definitely go for the more officers. I can't tell you how many times I've wished there was an officer around when I see yet another idiot driving like he's got no sense!


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6) Cammera's can not make judgement calls. Am I speeding to get distance between from somebody, who is maybe driving eratically, durnk.
Be honest now, have you ever really used this excuse to get out of a speeding ticket? "But, Officer, I was going 100 to get away from that fool back there driving eratically!"


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7) The real question is am I driving my vehicle in an unsafe manner, a cammera can not tell.
If you are speeding, running a red light or otherwise breaking the law, you are driving your vehicle in an unsafe manner. It doesn't matter if it's a camera or an officer that catches you. I know you think you can safely operate your vehicle faster than anyone else on the freeway, but so did the uninsured moron who rear-ended my boss on the freeway while my boss was going 65 mph!!!!


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8) Cities set up speed traps for money, not safety. I am against giving them the capability to completely audimate the process and eliminate the Police officer who could at least be usefull.
Obey the laws and you will never have to worry about contributing to the city's general fund. It is a proven fact that just the presence of cameras serve to deter speeders and red light runners. Unfortunately, it is the actions of a few that make the cameras even necessary.
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Old 10-29-06, 10:35 PM   #25 (permalink)
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HAHA! I can legally run a red light in my GREAT state of Georgia. SCREW THE REST OF YOU STATES HAHAHAHA! lol

I learned today that if you are in a turn lane(for lighted intersections) that, by law, you are to pull into the intersection and wait untill it is clear to turn. if you have to wait untill the light turns red for traffic in the opposite lane to stop then it's perfectly legal. HA!
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Old 10-29-06, 10:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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jmj go to an intersection with red light cameras, do that, and report back!!

Btw, I like the red light cameras, but hate the idea of speed cameras.
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Old 10-29-06, 11:05 PM   #27 (permalink)
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HAHA! I can legally run a red light in my GREAT state of Georgia. SCREW THE REST OF YOU STATES HAHAHAHA! lol

I learned today that if you are in a turn lane(for lighted intersections) that, by law, you are to pull into the intersection and wait untill it is clear to turn. if you have to wait untill the light turns red for traffic in the opposite lane to stop then it's perfectly legal. HA!
That law applies everywhere. The difference is that the light is green when you enter the intersection, but red when you exit it. MUCH different from entering on red.

EVERYONE should enter the intersection while waiting, don't wait at the line. That's just silly.
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Old 10-29-06, 11:48 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by benots4
I got tagged by aircraft once, and I am against speed cameras.

Agreed, the goverment is already involved in the average persons life way to much.
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Old 10-30-06, 12:05 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Howard2k
That law applies everywhere. The difference is that the light is green when you enter the intersection, but red when you exit it. MUCH different from entering on red.

EVERYONE should enter the intersection while waiting, don't wait at the line. That's just silly.
yeah I meant enter on green too. I didn't know that applied elsewhere?

and yes I'll admit it, I was one of those who waited at the line sorry
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Agreed, the goverment is already involved in the average persons life way to much.
Again, I say that if you're not doing anything wrong, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

I'm sure that no one on this site is naive enough to think that the government is the only entity watching their every move. We all know that every time that we step into a Wal Mart, gas station, casino, mall or bank, we have countless cameras on us at any given moment. Why? To deter people from being dishonest and to catch the ones that try anyway. Again, this is because the actions of a few make it a necessity to watch all. Why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with those cameras????
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