Again, I say that if you're not doing anything wrong, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'm sure that no one on this site is naive enough to think that the government is the only entity watching their every move. We all know that every time that we step into a Wal Mart, gas station, casino, mall or bank, we have countless cameras on us at any given moment. Why? To deter people from being dishonest and to catch the ones that try anyway. Again, this is because the actions of a few make it a necessity to watch all. Why doesn't anyone seem to have a problem with those cameras????
I don't have any problem with the camers, its the automated evaluation that I have a problem with. If you are in wall mart and put something in your pocket a summans to appear in court for shopplifting is not immediately mailed to your house.
In Ohio a policeman in an unmarked car is not allowed to issue speeding tickets, why would a cammera be allowed to?
the cops just want some easy money they should be the ones enforcing the laws not cameras I would say that maybe if you recieved a warning from a camera shot it would be feasible then if it keeps happening put a cop there to issue a ticket if he sees you do it but most police forces are after your money first then safety last
the cops just want some easy money they should be the ones enforcing the laws not cameras I would say that maybe if you recieved a warning from a camera shot it would be feasible then if it keeps happening put a cop there to issue a ticket if he sees you do it but most police forces are after your money first then safety last
Are you living in Alabama where Bubba the Highway Trooper roughs you up for some speeding ticket money? In every places I've ever lived and worked, the money doesn't go to the police, it goes to the city, municipality, state, etc.
Are you living in Alabama where Bubba the Highway Trooper roughs you up for some speeding ticket money? In every places I've ever lived and worked, the money doesn't go to the police, it goes to the city, municipality, state, etc.
I live in tn and just recently the police force was issuing out tickets left and right and had speed traps everywhere and had made a record amount of money on tickets it was in the millions some local government officials started complaining because they were becoming victims of purposely set speed traps to generate revenue also and demanded that the police chief change his tactics I have even seen them radaring people in a school zone in bumper to bumper traffic.
I'm surprised not to see a mention of the fairly recent addition to the UK camera arsenal. The Average speed camera! It records your Plate Number at 2 different places and if your average speed is over the limit you get a ticket. This stop people just slowing down when they know the camera is there and then speeding up again. But for all you Rev Heads out there Just come and visit me in Germany and and see how it works on roads that have no upper speed limit.
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No cameras where I routinely travel though they do have them in the D.C. area.
Curious question for the camera haters - Why? Because it costs you if you get caught or because you think it's a privacy issue? Other reason?
They are almost universally hated in the UK because they are being abused by the police as an easy way to generate income. The original idea was presumably to control traffic speed in identified accident black spots. However, somewhere along the line things went wrong and these things started sprouting up all over the place. They are usually placed so as to 'catch out' the unsuspecting motorist. For example you may be travelling at 50mph along a country lane, and find that as you round a bend you come across a 30mph sign and with no chance to slow down - "flash"! - thats 60 quid and 3 points.
The powers that be, aware of the tide of resentment against speed cameras, have even tried to rename them "Safety Cameras" in a desparate attempt to fool people into believing that they have something to do with making the roads safer. In fact there are numerous statistics that show that the number of accidents tend to rise after the placement of a speed camera. Not surprising as they distract drivers and tend to make them brake suddenly, even if they are already travelling below the speed limit!
Unfortunately, there are a large number of people in the UK (including the all the local authorities it seems) who think that the only safe way to drive on our roads is slowly. Consequently, speed limits on a lot of roads are set far too conservatively. As a consequence of this (and other barnpot ideas like bus lanes) we have horrendous congestion on our roads. And congestion leads to .. accidents.
Just my opinion (this is going to generate some heated debate)
In the UK, who benefits from the revenue generated by the cameras? Who makes the decisions tha tmore cameras are needed? Just curious if the beneficiaries (sp?) of the revenue are the same people who determine the need for cameras???
not in all places, but the companies running the stop-light cameras are known to shorten the yellow period to increase violations to increase revenue.
also there have been increased accidents at the intersections of stop-light cameras(people slamming on brakes to aviod being ticketed), will something like this happen at speed camera areas?
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... but the companies running the stop-light cameras are known to shorten the yellow period to increase violations to increase revenue.
It seems that the timing of lights (length of yellow light) would be mandated by statute just like most traffic signage - they have to be a certain size, color, shape, height from the ground, location/distance from road or curb, etc. If you ever get a ticket for violating any type of sign (e.g. stop, no parking, etc), check what your state traffic statutes say about the signs and then go check to see if it is in accord with the law. You might be able to get the ticket thrown out but it would probably entail you going to court to show the judge the sign is wrong. You could maybe argue a speeding ticket also if the speed limit sign is goobered up.
I was the guy sitting behind you honking the horn ;)
Drives me nuts when people do that. It's not TOO common here, but does happen.
suprisingly I never got honked at, I would just wait at the line and go when cleared(even after traffic stopped cause I don't live anywhere near red light cams)
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suprisingly I never got honked at, I would just wait at the line and go when cleared(even after traffic stopped cause I don't live anywhere near red light cams)
You should check you state statutes before sitting in the intersection waiting for clearance. You could find flashing lights in your rear view mirror.
From wikipedia.com: "In virtually all jurisdictions in which they are used, it is a legal offense for motorists to disregard the instructions of traffic lights (or other traffic control devices). The most common infraction associated with traffic lights is failing to stop for a red light (in some jurisdictions, running a yellow light can also incur a penalty). Enforcement of traffic lights varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction; some places are extremely strict. Other locales are infamous for traffic lights being routinely ignored by motorists, with no serious attempts by law enforcement to alter the situation.
Jurisdictions differ somewhat on how to deal with "red light running" — attempts by motorists to race to an intersection while facing a yellow light, in an attempt to beat the red. In some locales, as long as the light is yellow when the motorist enters the intersection, no offense has been committed; in others, if the light turns red at any time before the motorist clears the intersection, then an offense occurs. In Oregon and other places, a stricter standard applies — running a yellow light is an offense, unless the motorist is unable to stop safely. This standard has been criticized as ambiguous and difficult to enforce (red light cameras in Oregon are only activated if a motorist enters the intersection on a red).
In some jurisdictions (such as San Francisco and New York City), there are ordinances against "gridlocking" — any motorist who enters an intersection (even if on a green light) but does not ensure that he/she can proceed through the intersection, and gets stuck in the middle of the intersection (when traffic ahead fails to proceed), and remains there after the light turns red (thus blocking traffic coming from other directions) may receive a citation."
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