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Old 10-31-06, 01:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Aximsitemobileicon A good system heat teller..

Hi all. I have a Dell system and I want to be able to monitor how hot my GPU, CPU, and HD are. I tried many programs and this includes Speedfan but to no avail.
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Old 10-31-06, 02:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sorry. sensors in dells are locked. no way to tell the temps. (although if your hdd is smart enabled you can veiw its temp woth speedfan.)


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Old 10-31-06, 03:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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O great.... But Speedfan works with my Dell laptop... Also, will my computer ever get too hot?
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Old 10-31-06, 04:33 PM   #4 (permalink)
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its a dell, dont worry about it. dells are actully pretty good at being quite and running cold. if the cpu gets too hot the fan will kick in to high(er) gear and provide mroe cooling.
HOWEVER!! if you are going to upgrade it to a 3.0ghz proc, then first of all i really wouldnt recommend it and secound, you need to make sure that that proc is getting enough cooling. unfourtunatly dells use a propiatary fan connector however if you have some tech knowage you can make an aadpater, so that means you cant buy an after market cololer.
also, speedfan will work with notebook since heat is more of an iussue with them so dell unlockes them.


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Old 10-31-06, 05:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Maybe this?

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Originally Posted by KPDUTY
Maybe this?

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no, only for notebook an persisison models. not deminsion or optiplex which is what he has.


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O. It seems that 3.0ghz will put alot more heat.... Right?
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Use Puron (R410a) and you can even put Britney CPUs in the box! Where you'll put the compressor is something you'll work out...
If you need to use a CPU that puts out more heat than what can be handled by the existing cooling system, upgrade the cooling system!
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Originally Posted by sgtsampay
O. It seems that 3.0ghz will put alot more heat.... Right?
not a lot more, really depends, but enough of a differnce that you should be slighly worried. the thing tho is that since dells have all there sensors locked, yoiu cant see if the cpu is making propor contact wit the heat sink , ect... this is why i keep telling you that you shouldnt be trying to upgrade a dells cpu.


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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
since dells have all there sensors locked, yoiu cant see if the cpu is making propor contact wit the heat sink , ect... this is why i keep telling you that you shouldnt be trying to upgrade a dells cpu.
Locked how? Details?
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Would some heat thermal paste be good also? I know how/can upgrade the CPU fan in my dell with a fast/powerfull fan that should help alot. I do know that if I use my Dell alot and then open the case right after, the heat sink is hot/warm like it should be....
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Originally Posted by krhainos
Locked how? Details?

delll lockes the sensors of most of their computers for some obsene reason. the sensors are locked through the bios (for viewing) however the hard were does have access to them... kinda hard to expane it, but really thats abiut it...


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Originally Posted by sgtsampay
Would some heat thermal paste be good also? I know how/can upgrade the CPU fan in my dell with a fast/powerfull fan that should help alot. I do know that if I use my Dell alot and then open the case right after, the heat sink is hot/warm like it should be....
first of all when you take the heat sink out when you are installign the new cpu, clean the bottom of the heat sink with rubbing alcohol and use a clean tooth brush as a brush to help get the thermal pad off.

do not install the cpu with out thermal paste. get a tube of arctic silver 5. put a dot in the center of the proc. use something CLEAN to spread the as5 in an even mannor around the proc ocvering the entire core.

put the cleaned heat sink back on and make sure it is nice and snug.

remember that after you put the new proc in you will have to reinstall windows.



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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
delll lockes the sensors of most of their computers for some obsene reason. the sensors are locked through the bios (for viewing) however the hard were does have access to them... kinda hard to expane it, but really thats abiut it...


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That was more of a why, I asked how. I don't care why they "lock", I'm more curious about how they do it -- do they disable read access to the I2C bus? Do the sensors report zero? (well, the Dell BIOS has to be reading it somehow) Do they use some proprietary bus that there's no utility for?

I'd understand if they locked down write access to the registers to change clock speed -- but disabling read access for the temperature doesn't make sense because there's nothing special or secret about it. On the other hand, Dell is famous for making a lot of stuff proprietary especially on the one componenet they make in house : the motherboard. So it wouldn't surprise me if they made their own special bus for it.
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Originally Posted by aximbigfan
first of all when you take the heat sink out when you are installign the new cpu, clean the bottom of the heat sink with rubbing alcohol and use a clean tooth brush as a brush to help get the thermal pad off.

do not install the cpu with out thermal paste. get a tube of arctic silver 5. put a dot in the center of the proc. use something CLEAN to spread the as5 in an even mannor around the proc ocvering the entire core.

put the cleaned heat sink back on and make sure it is nice and snug.

remember that after you put the new proc in you will have to reinstall windows.



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Ok... I don't that is will get a new proc because I don't want to reinstall windows!!! I jsut got it looking nice and I don;t have to time to redo it all.

Thanks for the help about the thermal stuff. When i got the computer, the compound flaked/fell off and I didn;t think that it was needed. So right now I jsut have the heatsink/fan. I did some research and I found out that I could be damaging my proc because it has no thermal stuff so I will go to the store after school and get some. Thanks for telling me how to put it on. (I just put one drop on the heat sink and spread it around where the proc will go?)

Lastly, I found a cool fan online that is the same size for my current fan mount and I want to know if the new fan will hurt anything... Also, will it make the proc get cooler or will it not make a differance? (I have heard of people having dry ice to cool down there proc and turn them into blocks of ice and the proc still work. Is that true?

Thank again guys and thank a bunch ABF. You are really helpful.
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