Answears in BOLD. You have no idea, Wal mart sells airguns too! I am not pro airsoft, in fact i don't play or use the guns. I rather like airguns. Gamo is in spain, but i thought a few of there low-end guns are made in China. 10 bucks says chris is the next NRA president...
where you say you were hit by a .177 pellet and it left a welt, you must have been hit by a a very low powered gun. a boy got in the news the other day becosue he shot himself with a low powered pellet gun and hte pellet went half way through him and he almost died.
@mp, im sorry, but no airsoft gun can fire an airsoft bead 200ft with any accuracy. and i can hit a target the thickness of a popscical stick from 90 ft away. only reason it is only 90 ft is becouse i ran otu of room to shoot.
Guns get over the sound barrier all the time and it is not noisy. I have a high end pellet gun to play around with and it never makes any loud noise or anything like that.
P.S. Seems like a lot for an airgun, you need a real gun man! ( :p, I know your a kid still)
well at first i wanted to get a .22 but it would be kind of really really illegal to fire in my (residental) area...
ok well i have a challenge to all those who say that airsoft is the same as airgun. go to your local barnes and noble book store and get "airgunner" magazine. i challenge you all to look throug it and look for any airtical/review of an airsoft gun.
I didn't read that anybody said that airsoft is the same as an air powered rifle.
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maybe some of the "high end" ones arnt, but most are definatly, i mean i had a friend with one (a "high end" model and he shot me with it at point blank range in my back and i barly even felt it. if he had tried the samethign with even a low power airgun the round would have gone at least half way through me. also, airsoft guns are extermly in acurate. with my 1077 air rifle i can easly hit a thin popsical stick at 25-35ft. you could never do that with an airsoft. one last thing is that airsoft guns typicalay shoot at 100-200 fps. a low powered airgun shoots at 800fps and soem of the higher powered airguns shoot at 1600 to 2000fps.
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i have two airsoft pistols that i can hit popsical sticks with at 30 ft easy. Also both of mine shoot at 295-315 feet per second, which still is not the 800. But my Russian m44 shoots the 7.62 x 54 round at 2850 feet per second. Yep, real guns are WAY more exciting and awesome than Any air gun.
Thats just me though :approve:
i have two airsoft pistols that i can hit popsical sticks with at 30 ft easy. Also both of mine shoot at 295-315 feet per second, which still is not the 800. But my Russian m44 shoots the 7.62 x 54 round at 2850 feet per second. Yep, real guns are WAY more exciting and awesome than Any air gun.
Thats just me though :approve:
im not sayign your lying, but i seriesly doubt that an airsoft gun coudl fire a plastic bead at almost 3 times the speed of sound. when you fire it do you hear a "CRACK" liek a whip?
actully the speed of sound depends on the tempurate. and 2800ftps is near mach 3.
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anyway, thid is an airgun forum that i am a member of. if you go to the site and search airsoft akll you will get is rants about how people are stupid and confus the 2. take a look at these 2 threads...
airsoft and airguns are 2 differnt things, they dont even have a little in common. airguns are meant for adults who enjoy hunting and presitiopn target practice, airsoft is meant for 10yr olds who want to pretend they have a real gun. and airguns are considered real guns (but legal to shoot in residental areas for pest control) airsoft guns are toys.
if you ge shot by one it is like getting shot by a .22 or .25.
Whoa, an airgun/rifle is not alike in effect with an actual firearm, .22 rim-fire, or the like, not even close to bullet mass or velocity, coming from personal experience of seeing small caliber bullet trauma and .22 air rifle wounds.
29-40 Grain rounds in .22 Rimfire
14.3 Grain in Pellet
Muzzel Energy of a .22 Rimfire is 9 to 10 times that of a air rifle.
It seems that this has been a semantic discourse.
In several states both Airguns and air soft will be included in the same category, along with paint ball.
Owning -Several Firearms, Air rifle (1970s Benjamin .22), Airsoft (for night time indoors fun) and Paint ball (for making a mess)
Airguns are guns, sure, but not firearms and not in the same class as anything that fires a "round" and not a "pellet".
Whoa, an airgun/rifle is not alike in effect with an actual firearm, .22 rim-fire, or the like, not even close to bullet mass or velocity, coming from personal experience of seeing small caliber bullet trauma and .22 air rifle wounds.
29-40 Grain rounds in .22 Rimfire
14.3 Grain in Pellet
Muzzel Energy of a .22 Rimfire is 9 to 10 times that of a air rifle.
It seems that this has been a semantic discourse.
In several states both Airguns and air soft will be included in the same category, along with paint ball.
Owning -Several Firearms, Air rifle (1970s Benjamin .22), Airsoft (for night time indoors fun) and Paint ball (for making a mess)
no. actully airguns are refired to as airarms, or firearms younger brother. and actully most airgun are as powerful as a centerfire/rimfire .22 or even more. thats the thign is that becosue airarms are powered by air most peopel assum that they are liek airsoft gun and that they are low powered, which is completly wrong. airugns can be be very powerful. in fact when i got my first gun, i was originally goling to get the gamo viper, however the gun salesman discourged me fro it sayign that it was more powerful then a .22 and could be illegal in my area. i did a puncture test with one of my rifles where i stacked a bunch of old pellet tins together and taped them up and shot them. the round penitrated 4 layers and ALMOST penitrated the 5th (it left a nsaty dent which had a large crack in the center) and the pellet tins are thick too. that firle shoots at 800fps. think of what a 1200fps airgun could do.
the only reason that airsoft, paintball and airguns are grouped together is becosue they are all powered by air. in the uk however there are some very very strick laws on just airguns.
one last thign and that is that you are assumi9ng that all airgun rounds are alike. they arent. i have seen anywhere from 4 grain, to 21.1 (!) grain rounds.
Thanks Chris you fond me out.
Based what you said I am 10 years old not all most 20 like I said when I joined this board. You my AUG airsoft gun looks so real that it is I mean I have a clip that holds 300+ rounds and my one friend lied to about being older then me because he most be 10 years old to.
Oh check out www.airsoftohio.com and www.airsoftnw.com to find out there views on young kids.
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I guess I need to go back to my USMC small arms school and refresh myself.
I would not worry about people's confusion regarding airguns/airsoft, to do so speaks to me of ego issues. Is that discourse worth it anyway?
"actually airguns are refired to as airarms, or firearms younger brother" Is a nice way to up sell an idea, similar but highly different,
You need to consider the whole combination of bullet mass, and velocity and it's relationship to inertia and impact results.
In short, a Honda Civic hitting a house at 90MPH will not have the same effect as a Diesel Truck at 90MPH or 150MPH or even 60MPH. When you get a chance go to a firing range and do a test shoot between the two, the difference will be apparent, mind you a .22 can still be deadly at 500+yds
I'll assume your airgun zeal comes from age, however there is not a need to justify or defend why you want to sport with airguns. If you like it so be it, so it's not a firearm it not necessary to lump yourself in that group directly or by proxy.
Thanks Chris you fond me out.
Based what you said I am 10 years old not all most 20 like I said when I joined this board. You my AUG airsoft gun looks so real that it is I mean I have a clip that holds 300+ rounds and my one friend lied to about being older then me because he most be 10 years old to.
Oh check out www.airsoftohio.com and www.airsoftnw.com to find out there views on young kids.
well your liying about your "2850fps" gun. i looked and i have never seen one airsoft gu nthat shoots about 600fps.
and for all those who say that airguns arent very powerful go to www.gamo.com
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