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Old 05-30-07, 02:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More football...

I LOVE to watch football and I felt bad about the XFL shutting down, they had a bad business model however... people will not watch if they think it is fixed

This sounds cool and the IPO makes it interesting, very similar to Green Bay and they have very fanatic.... fans



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And now, at an age when most people are well into retirement, he has decided to tackle the establishment again. This time, though, the establishment isn’t Wall Street. It’s the National Football League. Bill Hambrecht, you see, is starting up a professional football league. So far, he and his partner, Tim Armstrong, a senior executive at Google, have pledged $2 million each. They’ve hired a C.E.O. and a C.O.O., both of whom cut their teeth at the National Basketball Association. They’ve got a name: the United Football League. And they’ve lined up a wealthy, well-known businessman as their first owner: Mark Cuban, the billionaire who owns the N.B.A.’s Dallas Mavericks. Like Hambrecht, Cuban loves nothing more than confronting the status quo.

Obviously, the U.F.L. is still in the early planning stages. It hasn’t yet hired a single football person and is still hunting for seven more owners with Cuban’s deep pockets and contrarian mindset, so that the league can begin with eight teams. It could easily fall apart before the first kickoff. Indeed, there has already been one setback: Boone Pickens, the oilman turned-corporate-raider-turned-billionaire-hedge-fund manager, recently abandoned his intention to buy a team. But Cuban remains committed, and if all goes according to plan, the U.F.L. will play its first preseason games in August 2008. I kid you not.

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Old 05-30-07, 02:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If this were the early 60's I could see it being successful. But too many football leagues have come and gone and none have made it. USFL, XFL, Arena League, they all were gimmicky. Nobody can take a league seriously when a player's jersey says, "He Hate Me", or the arena is the size of a hockey rink. People want real football, not a mockery of it.

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Old 05-30-07, 02:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by stevenator65 View Post
People want real football, not a mockery of it.

I'm out.
I agree... get rid of that funny shapped 'ball' and kick the ball in the net...
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Old 05-30-07, 02:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I agree... get rid of that funny shapped 'ball' and kick the ball in the net...
OH OH here comes the old arguement. Better watch out, we can talk about relgion, politics and kids, and probably not get in a fight, but bring up sports and well that just may do us in.
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Funny shaped ball? It's just a childrens version of rugby.
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Old 05-31-07, 09:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hey hey hey... GB fans are not fanatics. Sure, diehard... Commited... They're good wholesome fans for the most part. You want fanatical, look at the raiders or the vikings and the like.. Jeesh.
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"good wholesome fans"? yeah, right. I wouldn't take myself, much less my family, to many American football games and definitely not a GB footbal match.

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"good wholesome fans"? yeah, right. I wouldn't take myself, much less my family, to many American football games and definitely not a GB footbal match.
Aussie rules football is the game, funny shaped ball:approve:
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"good wholesome fans"? yeah, right. I wouldn't take myself, much less my family, to many American football games and definitely not a GB footbal match.
Can I ask why. I usually attend 3 or 4 Chiefs football games a year. I have never had any problems. Fans are great. Even in the parking lot before the game, tailgating, people share, laugh and just have a good time.
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It isn't quite the riots that happen in the world cup... but it isn't that boring either
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I didn't mean to throw the whole NFL under the bus but, I said I wouldn't attend "many", not all games. I'm sure a Chiefs game would be great. I've been to several Cowboy games and plan on taking my son when I can but I've also been to a few Eagles and Giants games at their respective stadiums - never again, especially with my family - too many drunk idiots. I'd go to any stadium if they'd stop selling beer - too many see it as a reason to get hammered and act like imbeciles. Based upon experience and what I've seen, read and heard, I wouldn't go to the Eagles, Giants or Raiders stadiums.
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I prefer watching games on replaytv too. It's fun to go to the stadium, but yeah, it's loud, you don't get good instant replays, it's either way to hot or way to cold, somehow we always end up in the nosebleeds...

But yeah, I'd probably have to agree with the eagles and giants statements.
I've only been to GB games, but going off of the fans I see on tv.
Then again, the only ones that make it on tv are the... boisterous (dare I say beligerant) ones..
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I prefer watching games on replaytv too. It's fun to go to the stadium, but yeah, it's loud, you don't get good instant replays, it's either way to hot or way to cold, somehow we always end up in the nosebleeds...

But yeah, I'd probably have to agree with the eagles and giants statements.
I've only been to GB games, but going off of the fans I see on tv.
Then again, the only ones that make it on tv are the... boisterous (dare I say beligerant) ones..
As far as replays at Arrowhead, we have instant replays on the big screen in the end zones. And as far as the fans, I agree, Chiefs fans are usually well behaved. After the tailgating we are all too full to do anything but sit and watch.
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As far as replays at Arrowhead, we have instant replays on the big screen in the end zones. And as far as the fans, I agree, Chiefs fans are usually well behaved. After the tailgating we are all too full to do anything but sit and watch.
Yeah, there are bigscreens at lambeau too, but still, it's not the same.
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