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Old 07-17-07, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Mad Michael Vick, Class Act... NOT

In another sterling display of character and the epitome of being a sports idol, Vick has been formally indicted for running a pit bull dog fighting ring

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Feds: Falcons QB, cohorts executed pit bulls that failed fight tests

JULY 17--NFL star Michael Vick was indicted today on a federal conspiracy charge for his alleged role in a dog fighting venture that operated from a Virginia property owned by the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. A copy of the indictment, filed today in U.S. District Court in Richmond, can be found below. The 27-year-old Vick, whose nickname is listed as "Ookie" in the indictment, allegedly established the Bad Newz Kennels in early-2001 in Smithfield, Virginia. It was this property, for which Vick paid $34,000, that the star athlete and his codefendants used as the "main staging area for housing and training the pit bulls involved in the dog fighting venture and hosting dog fights."

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Old 07-18-07, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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NFL can’t wait — Vick deserves lifetime ban
No good way for league to spin dogfighting indictment or wait for verdict


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In our justice system, a man is innocent until proven guilty.

But Roger Goodell operates within his own justice system.

The NFL commissioner’s way of doing things may seem autocratic, but remember, his power was attained through democratic means. The NFL Players Association signed off on a basic agreement that gives Goodell full authority to impose penalties against players who run afoul of the law and/or the rules. Not only that, but when there’s an appeal, Goodell decides the outcome of that, too.

So the next shoe you hear drop will be Goodell imposing a lifetime ban on Michael Vick. And he’ll be justified in doing so.

A lifetime ban rarely means lifetime. It means indefinite — and if a player wants to get back into the NFL, he has to keep his nose clean and then reapply for reinstatement. It’s a little like Imus — kicked out during a storm of outrage, then quietly allowed to return when it passes.

Goodell will impose a lifetime ban upon Vick because he has to. After all, he suspended Tank Johnson for eight games because the former Chicago Bear violated terms of his probation from a misdemeanor weapons charge. He handed down a one-year suspension to ‘Pacman’ Jones even though he was involved in 10 incidents in which he was interviewed by police, but was not convicted of anything.

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Old 07-18-07, 08:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I argree, they kicked out PacMan Jones for 1 year, and he was nit indicted. Vick deserves to be gone!!!
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This thug has "deserved to be gone" along time ago. Maybe the time he gave the hometown fans the finger....or maybe the Ron Mexico charade....or maybe the water bottle incident. Now this. You name it, Arthur "Home Depot" Blank has done everything in his power to enable this thug to play football and has turned a blind eye to all his "indiscretions." But, as is always the case.....it's not his fault. Somebody else did it without his knowledge. This imbecile has been coddled his whole life.....just because he can play a child's game. Disgusting!!
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Innocent 'till proven guilty.

If Michael is guilty, bye-bye! Don't need this "stuff" in professional sports!
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Old 07-18-07, 10:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Even though i am a Falcons fan i am not a big fan of mike vick in general. but i have to agree with Tankman innocent until proven guilty. While i am pretty sure Vick is guilty as sin, remember the duke lacrosse players who all appeared to be guilty as sin to start with.
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Originally Posted by ericcumbee View Post
Even though i am a Falcons fan i am not a big fan of mike vick in general. but i have to agree with Tankman innocent until proven guilty. While i am pretty sure Vick is guilty as sin, remember the duke lacrosse players who all appeared to be guilty as sin to start with.
Good point, and I agree with you.
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Old 07-20-07, 04:17 PM   #8 (permalink)
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FOXNews.com - Michael Vick Dogfighting Case Makes Way to Floor of U.S. Senate - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

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RICHMOND, Va. — The Michael Vick dogfighting case made its way to the floor of the U.S. Senate Thursday when its most senior member publicly declared his outrage, saying he's witnessed one execution but wouldn't mind seeing another "if it involves this cruel, sadistic, cannibalistic business of training innocent, vulnerable creatures to kill."

The strong words from Sen. Robert Byrd, D-WV, widely known for his devotion to animals, come as dogfighting controversy swirls around the Atlanta Falcons star quarterback. Vick and three others were indicted earlier this week on felony charges of competitive dogfighting, procuring and training pit bulls for fighting, and conducting the enterprise across state lines.

The dogs were housed, trained and fought at a property owned by Vick in Surry County, Va., under an outfit named "Bad Newz Kennels," the indictment says.

Among the grisly findings: Losing dogs either died in the pit or were electrocuted, drowned, hanged or shot. The indictment said purses climbed as high as $20,000 for fights.

Byrd called the activities described in the Vick case "sadistic" and "barbaric." At one point, Byrd began shouting and pumping his fist.

"Barbaric!," he yelled. "Let that word resounding from hill to hill, and from mountain to mountain, and valley to valley across the broad land. Barbaric! Barbaric! May God help those poor souls who'd be so cruel. Barbaric! Hear me! Barbaric!"

Byrd, 89, said he would not prejudge the men's guilt or innocence, but he left no doubts about his sentiments.

"I am confident that the hottest places in hell are reserved for the souls of sick and brutal people who hold God's creatures in such brutal and cruel contempt," he said.

"One is left wondering," he said. "Who are the real animals: the creatures inside or outside the ring?"

Meanwhile, the Falcons owner and CEO released his first public statement on the matter Thursday, saying he was "working diligently on exploring our options" on the indicted quarterback.

"This situation affects everyone — our club, our players and associates, our sponsors, our fans and the Atlanta community among them — so we must consider all of our customers in making any decisions," Arthur Blank said in a statement. "Given the differing perspectives and strong feelings around this issue, we probably won't make everyone happy, but we are committed to doing the right thing."


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Old 07-20-07, 05:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Squeeze me? Baking powder? Duke rape case? What is going on here? Just because he is indicted, certainly doesn't mean he is guilty. Just ask the three young men who were indicted for the Duke Rape Case. Until and unless a jury says he is guilty, he plays football. I heard Nike postponed their new Mike Vick shoe until this case is resolved. That's a shame. They didn't stand by their man. Will the Falcons? Will the city? He's not my man, (I'm a Bears Fan) but he hasn't been proven guilty.

What about Senator Byrd? The 90 year old senator is crying foul over dog fighting! Good for him, I say. Now he only needs to decry his shameful leadership in the KKK. How do you spell hypocrite?
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Vick co-defendant pleads guilty to dogfighting - NFL - MSNBC.com

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RICHMOND, Va. - One of Michael Vick’s co-defendants pleaded guilty Monday to federal dogfighting conspiracy charges in a plea agreement with prosecutors.

Tony Taylor, 34, who will be sentenced Dec. 14, said he was not promised any specific sentence in return for his cooperation with the government.

Taylor faces a maximum of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine, but likely will get less under federal sentencing guidelines. The guideline range will be determined by court officials, and U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson can depart from that range if he finds aggravating or mitigating circumstances.

“You’re pleading guilty and taking your chances, right?” Hudson asked Taylor.

He responded, “Yes.”

Taylor had the same answer when Hudson asked: “You have agreed to cooperate fully with the United States, is that right?”

Taylor, of Hampton, entered his plea to conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities, and conspiring to sponsor a dog in an animal fighting venture.

Vick, the star quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons, and two other co-defendants pleaded not guilty last week to the same charges.

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Definitely agree with the 'innocent until proven ...' sentiments. Also feel the Ron Mexico stuff was (as well as being bad, stupid etc) freakin' hilarious! That has provided a lot of excellent Sports Radio banter and material.
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I'm thinking Tony Taylor is going to be the nail in Vick's couffin. Definitely not looking good for Vick when you have someone making a deal with the Govt.

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Yeah, but he plays ball like a demon, so... all is forgiven.
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Yeah, but he plays ball like a demon, so... all is forgiven.
New commiss is trying to clean up the league. If found quilty, I would bet he is gone, banned from football.
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Now, while anyone can say anything (lie) to get their plea deal, if this is true Vick may end up having to move to Southeast Asia.. Like to get away?


SI.com - NFL - Vick co-defendant pleads guilty to dogfighting charges - Monday July 30, 2007 1:30PM

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As part of a plea agreement, Tony Taylor pledged to fully cooperate with the government in its prosecution of Vick and two other men accused of running an interstate dogfighting enterprise known as "Bad Newz Kennels" on Vick's property in rural Surry County.

"The 'Bad Newz Kennels' operation and gambling monies were almost exclusively funded by Vick," a summary of facts supporting the plea agreement and signed by Taylor states.

The plea deal requires Taylor to testify against Vick and his two remaining co-defendants if called upon to do so. Taylor cannot get a stiffer sentence or face any new charges based on any new information he provides, according to terms of the agreement.

Additional charges are possible, however, against Vick and the other two. Federal prosecutors have said a superseding indictment will be issued in August.

Vick's lead attorney, Billy Martin, did not immediately return a phone message.
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