I stumbled across this Article while doing some research for work.
So, am I just some Pussy whipped, bleeding heart, vegetarian, liberal or some such thing, or do others agree with me that this story and the attitudes of people like this is simply horrifying?
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I dont know about this guy, but i come from an area where hunting is a popular activity. Most hunters are conservationists and want to only take a limited amount of game in order to not hurt the population. The state helps that out with limited seasons/tags.
But the way that guy got so many bears was too much. Around here hunters will only take a few deer a year, and use all the meat and keep the horns. When everybody in my area has lived around people who hunt, i dont myself, you just accept it as a way of life. B/c without it there would be way too many deer around here. There everywhere...
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I do find that abhorrent, Why is hunting considered sport? This guy basically sat in a hide and waited for the bears to come for a bait, and shot them. Excessively.
I say, hunt for need. If you are going to do if for sport, then you had better use just about everything off that bear. I've heard storys that are true, when people just go out, shoot an elk, cut off the horns and leave the rest!! Waste!! I'm against going out and just shooting things for the fun of it, just so you can have the thing hanging on your wall. If you're going to hunt, then hunt and eat the thing, use the hide, and leave as little waste as possible.
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In the UP most everyone shoots and eats what they kill. There are some idiots who kill more than they can eat like this guy with the bear. You find this in all things human. These violators need to be stopped, they make the legal hunters look like slobs, the public thinks all hunters are to blame. Do what you can to stop the violators.
Deer is our favorite, Elk does taste great, but many times the meat is not cared for properly after the animal is dead and the taste is not as good, do a google search on how to take care of the meat after you have killed the animal.
My Menonite hunting buddy sayes it well, I don't hire someone to kill my dinner for me (as in going to the grocery store) and I am very thankful to the animal for giving myself and my family sustenance. He treats every animal with respect, all hunters should follow his example.
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I agree with Fang. If you hunt to eat then great. I love deer and elk meat. But, if it's just for a trophy, then shame on you!
I've never much cared for the idea of hunting, particularly trophy hunting. Big deal - you go wait for an animal to show up and blow it away with your weapon. Somehow I just never felt like that was considered an accomplishment. I don't get it.
Hunting for food? Yeah, I can certainly understand that - but not this stuff.
It should be like the American Indians. When they killed a buffalo, they used just about everything off the bugger. They also killed in moderation. Now, along came the white man, killed the buffalo for sport, shot them out of train windows, and just left them there. Look at the buffalo population today!!
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It should be like the American Indians. When they killed a buffalo, they used just about everything off the bugger. They also killed in moderation. Now, along came the white man, killed the buffalo for sport, shot them out of train windows, and just left them there. Look at the buffalo population today!!
It should be a legal requirement that you have to eat anything you hunt... and all of it.
If you're not capable of eating an entire bear... you're not allowed to shoot one.
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I would definitely be against leaving the think after you shot it. But thanks to the carelessness of man in the 1800s native moose, elk, and coyotes in the northeast have been reduced. This left an abundance of whitetail deer. By hunting in my area, you are basically regulating population. But still using the animal.
The NYS Dec is pretty strict when it comes to regulations. By limiting tags and putting on regulations hunting isnt abusive to the environment like it was back in the 1800s. Moose are slowly starting to come back in the Adirondack region.
To start my rant about anti-hunters...
You cant show animals getting shot on hunting shows without a lot of disclaimers. But, you can show people getting shot on tv like its nothing. People are more sympathetic to animals then humans. Like recently when there were incidents of animals breaking out at that zoo in CA, people were more worried about the animal being alright then the humans. Not to say i hate animals, they are very important to our ecosystem, and without them we would all be dead eventually. But, who is the dominant species again? The point is hunting was part of life. For thousands of years people have done it, and nowadays it is looked upon as being negative.
The point is hunters, the good ones, unlike that guy in the linked site, are trying to practice a tradition. Todays hunters dont hate the environment, they respect it. They respect it enough to go out and challenge it.
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this is a hard one. i agree with most of you . the place sounded great right up to the time i read that the bears were baited. use a camera if you want a trophy dude.... where is the "sport" in getting an animal used to a spot with regular food ? then shooting him when he turns up? i can see the reason for some hunting like you guys said if you are going to eat it and use the hide and meat etc...
a lot of people find hunting and killing animals abhorent becaues modern society has distanced us from the neccessity of directly killing our food.we now pay people to raise it others to kill it others to chop it up others to deliver it an still others to package it in nice neat trays covered in cling film.we dont have to or even want to know how that steak got there in the supermarket. i bet there are some out there who would be surprised that it came from a cow...
i myself have never killed anything , apart from ants and roaches and spiders lol..... but i have been on a "hunt" but it was for feral animals not native to australia and doing our enviroment damage. so i guess i condone some killing of animals even though its not the animals fault its feral..
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So, am I just some Pussy whipped, bleeding heart, vegetarian, liberal or some such thing, or do others agree with me that this story and the attitudes of people like this is simply horrifying?
Both questions may both be true, but I can't say for certain about the first.:)
I would agree that if you are going to hunt that you eat what you kill. Waiting and killing in such a fashion doesn't seem like much sport...why not just rent a plane and drop napalm? That way not only do you nail all life below, but they're pre-cooked and easy to find.
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I've never much cared for the idea of hunting, particularly trophy hunting. Big deal - you go wait for an animal to show up and blow it away with your weapon. Somehow I just never felt like that was considered an accomplishment. I don't get it.
Hunting for food? Yeah, I can certainly understand that - but not this stuff.
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Well, being a hunter myself, I can definitly understand someone's point of view when some "hunter slob" goes out and blows away countless animals with a gun.....
This is where I differ. I took up bowhunting more than 10 years ago and haven't looked back. It took me 9 yrs to harvest my first animal (notice how the term harvest comes into play) and I've been lucky enough to be successful the last three years running, taking one animal per year.
This past year I practiced in rush hour traffic, calling Elk. Then in the fall, I managed to call in a bull Elk within 20 yards and harvest him. ANYONE thinking that I just go out and sit, waiting to blow an animal away with my bow, is more than welcome to join me and go through countless hours of enjoying nature, undisturbed and peaceful...... There's been many a day in which Mother Nature has been my only company.....
Still, respecting everyone's views, I can't totally agree with Anti-hunters, as I have read the research regarding conservation and the importance that hunter's harversts play each and every year..... For instance, did you know that more Grizzlies are killed each year BY THEIR OWN KIND than hunters would be capable of? Males (boars) tend to kill off the young to bring the females back into heat - even killing their own (the boars) offspring. So for an Anti-hunter to say that I, as a hunter, do more damage to populations than anything else is ridiculous....
I apologize for the rant.....
BTW Fang, IMHO when comparing Beef to Elk for taste, Elk wins hands down by a long ways....
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