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Old 09-07-08, 11:04 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Here's another potential solution. This suggests that Spybot may actually have caused the problem but it should be easy to determine if you follow the instructions.
Again my very grateful thanks Jogga. I have found my hosts file (I have not the slightest idea what it is) and opened it with Notepad. Using "Find" I have deleted all ad.doubleclick.net entries (there must have been at least twenty) and also deleted ad.uk.doubleclick,net entries (Two). Yet again it seemed to make no difference. So I have now uninstalled Spybot S & D to try to stop it reinserting these entries.

However, quite by chance, I have found a cure to the problem. On the bottom line of FF there is a small box containig the FF icon. If you place the cursor over it you get "Left-click: Switch rendering engine of current page". Left clicking changes the icon to the IE7 icon and - lo and behold - "Waiting for ad.doubleclick.net..." diappears and the website loads!! When you switch to a different address the icon changes back to the FF icon.

Again I have no idea what the "rendering engine" actually means but, in spite of the IE7 Icon ,the page still remains in the FF format (I am using it now to write this post) but the spell checker does not work.

Once more my most grateful thanks for your interest and your help. :approve:
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Old 09-07-08, 02:03 PM   #32 (permalink)
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davrol- That must mean you installed IE tab (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419). It allows rendering of an IE page in Firefox. Just disable it via tools-->Add-ons if you don't need it.
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davrol, that's excellent news :approve: I'm glad you got it sorted.
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Old 09-08-08, 07:36 AM   #34 (permalink)
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davrol- That must mean you installed IE tab (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419). It allows rendering of an IE page in Firefox. Just disable it via tools-->Add-ons if you don't need it.
Many thanks johnhu_2005. Yes I do have the IE tab add-on installed but I DO need it. Without it I cannot get FF to download aximsite or mobilitysite. Quite why the IE7 rendering engine works but the FF engine doesn't I cannot understand. Other people do not seem to have this problem.
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That's odd. Why not just backup FF and reinstall?
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Are you sure the hosts file is updated?
Did you undo everything spybot did?
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Old 09-09-08, 10:56 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Are you sure the hosts file is updated?
Did you undo everything spybot did?
I have no idea exactly what Spybot did but I have uninstalled it and edited the hosts file (what is it for?) and deleted all ad.doubleclick.net and ad.uk.doubleclick.net entries and FF now downloads both aximsite and mobilitysite correctly using the FF rendering engine.

It was extremely slow (maybe a problem with the site) but I have added the NoScript add-on and this seems to have speeded things up considerably.
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That's odd. Why not just backup FF and reinstall?
I am sorry but I don't understand what you are getting at. The IE Tab add-on does no harm and in any case FF is now running correctly (see my post #37 above). Clearly Spybot S & D was causing my problem.
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The hosts file is most likely a remnant from Windows' old TCP/IP-stack which originally came from unix (BSD?). (It is released under a more forgiving license than GPL)
You can find the same file in all linux and unix systems (desktop systems, at least). (in /etc/hosts or /etc/network/hosts or something similar)
It works like this:
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####hosts example####
62.232.18.101              www.microsoft.com
81.105.32.2                www.google.com
####hosts example end####
if you type in "www.microsoft.com" (without the quotes) in a browser/ftp program/whatever it doesn't try to see where that address leads (it doesn't talk to your name server). Instead it resolves the address to "62.232.18.101" just by looking at the hosts file and tries to connect to that IP-address.
The hosts file is kind of like a local map of the internet.

What SpyBot does is change addresses to banner companies of little or no interest (sites containing spy cookies, for instance) to 127.0.0.1, whose name actually is "localhost" and points to your own computer, by adding them to the hosts file, so the browser doesn't try to load those sites from the internet.
It's a pretty nifty idea but I can imagine that it slows browsing down in some circumstances
(like when a browser tries to connect to the banner site repeatedly and doesn't load the rest of the page while trying and your firewall just drops the packets (not bugs. FEATURES. It's most likely possible to change some settings in FF by going to about:config to make the page render instantly and skip the waiting part at the cost of seeing pictures load after the html page is loaded)).

That noscript thingy can be tested manually by turning off javascript in your browser (which is good thinking security-wise, but kind of make some sites hard/impossible to navigate).
Turning off javascript will absolutely speed up browsing of websites with lots of advertisements, though (I believe that's what noscript do, but I haven't got time for google).
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I installed Firefox 3 today, and after some tweaking it looks just like firefox 2, but now i got the better rendering engine.

Add Ons:
NoUn Buttons
Old Location Bar
Theme:
Firefox 2, the theme, reloaded

It seriously looks just like my old firefox, take a look for yourself:
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