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Old 12-30-03, 04:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Worried Java Apps on Axim x3i Wm2003

Hey,

I have been searching and searching but i am not able to find a Java Vm for my Pocket pc...

A quick history --- I used to own a BE-300 (A pocket manager). I got personal java and made apps for it. I even made a website (excuse address - http://www.classrecess.com/ ) where i posted the apps i made and even included applets to view on the spot...

anyhow, my BE-300 broke and and quit on the website. Now i have an Axim x3i, i want to get java on it... but the Personal java on my website does not work, mips and sh3 version...

http://www.classrecess.com/Instructions.cfm

Mips version of personal java - http://www.classrecess.com/downloads/javaVM.mips.CAB'

Could someone please give me a link to or post a JavaVm that will work on my axim. Thanx
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Old 12-30-03, 05:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've not seen a free Java VM for Pocket PC. Seems most mobile java development occurs on the Palm side. There are a couple Java VMs that cost money, but none are worth the cost.
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What happened to Personal Java though... I know it was *absorbed* by J2ME.... But isnt there still a place where i can download it???

A year ago, it was downloadable, now it has been practicly wiped off the face of the earth... :(



So what if personaljava has reached the end of its life --> http://java.sun.com/products/personaljava/

Doesnt anybody have a copy or link where it still lives???



Also, why doesnt my personaljava work on my ppc? I read to use the mips version somewhere. ---> http://www.classrecess.com/Instructions.cfm
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Old 12-30-03, 06:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You cannot use a MIPS verson on the ARM processor. You'll need to find a ARM version of Java...

Don't bother, you'd be better off using C++ or even .NET since both are actually supported (but I assume you are a Java programmer since you really seem to want it).
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Yhea... i am a Java programmer... All the stuff on the site i wrote...

Its a little anoying that my 166mhz Win CE 3.0 Pocket Manager (not pocket PC) was able to run them and my axim isnt... unless i want to fork out 50$ for a free java VM...
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My bro used to program Delphi like 2 years ago... and he /kinda/ started this year again, but he doesnt know anything about .net i think... i could ask him for help though. But I'd really appriciate it if you could find a VM or anything...


If anybody finds something, please post it here and email me if you want... fakejunk5825@yahoo.com (my junk email incase) ;)
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Old 12-30-03, 10:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I've been playin around with CrEme but havent made much progress...

any help on that would be great...



Still any help on getting personal java would be great.
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Old 12-30-03, 11:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Have you tried SuperWaba Java VM? They support both PocketPC and PalmOS. The download is free.....they only charge for support. I have not personally tried it out, but a couple of guys I used to work with ran the PalmOS versions with no problems.

You have to register at their site in order to do much of anything, but it just takes 30 seconds or so.
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Update....

Just noticed the "End User" link on their website, where you can download the CAB file without registering on their site. Click Here For Link

You should just be able to grab the "superwaba.PocketPC_ARM.CAB" file, copy it over to your Axim, and run it in File Explorer to install. Now I'm not sure if it supports WM2003 or not, but it's worth a shot. Good luck.
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Thanx, but i've played with waba... Correct me if im wrong, but i think it only runs compiled "waba" files....

What i mean is that Waba probably uses a different compiler than normal Java... Therfore Java i write and compile wont work... i will have to write in Waba instead... get the drift?

Im not sayin that im right, but im sure its something to that effect...

Thanx anyway... still searchin the net for PersonalJava...
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Call Sun, if they want Java on all platforms, they should support Pocket PC. You should see the Java SDK for Palm, its totally night and day compared to what we have.
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Also, one other option that I just thought of.....

NetFront 3.1 browser. It's one of the best PPC browsers around, and supports Personal Java 1.2a in the advanced version of NetFront. You can pick up NetFront 3.1 with Java support for under $20 right now.....much cheaper than the $50 Jeode (or whatever else Java VMs are out there), and you get a great browser as well. Not sure if this will even do what you are wanting, but just thought I'd toss the idea out to you.
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Old 12-31-03, 03:57 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanx for the link deftech.


I might decide to buy it... Hopefully it comes with Personal java... cause if it doesnt, its almost useless... lol


I know there has to be someone around here though that has personal java install on their computer...


If you do... Please please please Email it to me at Franklin@classrecess.com or PM or post it here.

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Old 01-04-04, 12:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Update:

Finally, after searching, i have started to use CrEme as a VM and after spending some time, i've figured out how to develop for it...

Here it is

http://www.nsicom.com/products/creme.asp

Download -

http://www.nsicom.com/products/eval1.asp

I have already started to developing for it. After i complete my first program, ill post it on my website and post a note here.... Im also probably going to redesign my website too to fit the new way im developing...

My website -

http://www.classrecess.com/
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Old 01-04-04, 01:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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There was a version of PersonalJava for the ARM chip on the Sun site a while ago.
If it's not the, let me know, and I'll send it to you.

I also have a good page on this site on sompiling Java on the Axim, if you want to have a look, just search for my name.

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I've been looking for personal java for the longest, in fact, all my older programs i've writen were geared to work with personal java.

I would really like you to send it to me.

If you could email it to me at Franklin@classrecess.com , or if you want, i can set up a form on my website where you upload it.

Thanx
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