Lystig

Hi!

Can I use Visual Basic 6.0 to make programs for my ppc or do I need some other programs? How much does theese programs cost?

Don't shoot me, I'm just a noob.

cageyjames

If you really want to program with VB, you'll either need to upgrade to Visual Basic.NET or download eVB from MSDN.

A good place to start is either the MSDN Mobility section of MSDN or DevBuzz.

SquawkingMonkey

You can use eMbedded Visual Tools or the .NET Compact Framework.

eMbedded Visual Tools is free. Use version 3.0 for Pocket PC 2002 and 4.0 for WM2003. Note: 4.0 no longer includes eVB-you will need to download this separately.

If you plan on developing .NET apps, keep in mind that you will also need to install the .NET CLR runtime for Pocket PC 2002 devices (WM2003 comes with it preinstalled on ROM).

deftech

Also though, if you develop in VB using eVB.....you'll have to install the eVB Runtime on all Windows Mobile 2003 devices. And this can be a real PITA, because all new PPCs coming out now have WM2003 loaded on them.

I suggest the same as James, that you should look into upgrading to VB.NET. It offers a lot more functionality in what you can write, and also works on WM2003 PPCs without having to make the user install additional runtimes.

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whitelyt

Yeah,

It's interesting how PPC2002 had eVB loaded but WM2003 does not. So if you want to run any programs the require eVB runtime you will have to install it if you are running WM2003.

SquawkingMonkey

Some good resources if you decide to use VB.NET and the Compact Framework...

www.opennetcf.org - Has a good download section for component libraries and a forum section with many controls and components (including source code).

www.gotdotnet.com - Site run by Microsoft development team that includes code with source as well as How-To articles.

www.intelliprog.com - Has many good articles and How-To's.

Keep in mind that VB.NET is not the VB6 you're familiar with. VB.NET is a fullfledged object-oriented language with many similarities and differences with VB6. Knowledge of object-oriented design and development is not only helpful but essential for effective development in .NET.

One last note: although WM2003 devices come with the Compact Framework installed on ROM, Microsoft has release service pack 1 that includes myriad bug fixes. Many of these devices will still need to have the service pack installed if you want the bug fixes.

cageyjames

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Originally posted by whitelyt Yeah, It's interesting how PPC2002 had eVB loaded but WM2003 does not. So if you want to run any programs the require eVB runtime you will have to install it if you are running WM2003.

Thats because the future in Microsoft's mind is .NET. No need for the old runtimes.... eVB wasn't very good anyway IMO.

whitelyt

Yeah, I know.

.Net this .Net that. There are some very good programs out there for the PPC that requires the runtime. Well atleast M$ makes it available for WM2003.

cjradek

so if i make a .net program for the computer it will work on my wm2003 ppc right. besides screen size of course. i would like to adjust my programs if this is true. also, is there a wm2003 emulator? with evb i could only use the ppc2002 one that won't work w/2003. if there is an emulator, can
you post a link please? Thank you so much everyone.

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Iguanaman

Here is a starting point...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobi...r/default.mspx

When you create a VB.NET program you will create the app as a "Smart Device." Not everything you can do in Windows porgramming will work in Windows CE. They had to pare down quite a few things to get it to fit.

SquawkingMonkey

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Originally posted by cjradek so if i make a .net program for the computer it will work on my wm2003 ppc right. besides screen size of course. i would like to adjust my programs if this is true. also, is there a wm2003 emulator? with evb i could only use the ppc2002 one that won't work w/2003. if there is an emulator, can you post a link please? Thank you so much everyone.

No. The Compact Framework is a very small subset of the full Framework. Many of the classes in the base class library are missing in the Compact Framework. Even the classes that do exist may have many missing methods and properties. Also, you must create a Smart Device application to target the Compact Framework.

The Compact Framework and emulator comes standard with Visual Studio .NET. I'm not sure if this is also true of the Visual Basic .NET Standard edition.